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More specifically, are we seeing companies breached due to their (obvious?) security flaws, hackers getting better at what they do, or a combination of both?

What is the future of security for these large companies that we put our trust into that our data is safe?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It won't become the norm, it is the norm. Security is incredibly hard and nothing is truly secure. If someone wants in badly enough they'll get in.

Keep your sensitive data in house, encrypt and back it up off site.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The reality is: security is often non-existent in larger corporations. It's all about optics and insurance. Hardly any project I've been involved with actually did something for security. It's a cobbled together mess with just enough security theater to not be legally liable. That's it.

Case in point: I know of a database that holds data for pretty much all adult persons in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and some people from surrounding countries. The root password contains the company's name and the year the DB was initially set up.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Most of the time it's not even nefarious, I can tell you've worked big corpos. There just are too many intertwined things and no one overseeing the whole system. Every large company probably has hundreds of security flaws, but no one can see the giant entrance sign to the forest when all they can see are trees

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Well, I would say it absolutely is possible, but it costs money directly, up front and in an accountable manner. Security incidents vanish in the fog of responsibility diffusion and nobody specifically can be blamed. That means for each individual responsible party, it is the rational choice to do just enough not to be blamed, pull off theater to seem engaged, but avoid anything that would actually cost money.

So, you're kind of right, but for the wrong reasons. It's a systemic issue, that almost inevitably happens in large organizations, but at the root is not inherent complexity, but a perverse incentive structure.

[โ€“] Sethayy 1 points 7 months ago

I mean its at least tiptoeing the line between ignorance and malice, with decades of ignorance is starting to be indistinguishable from malice

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This is the truth ^

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

it is the norm.

It always has been. I mean, super yachts are expensive, someone's gotta pay for that in one way or another. There's never been 'enough' with these people. They hide their greeds in something like 'new opportunities'

Even now, the lawyers are working their butts off finding new loop holes so that they could sell your data even more without raising red-flags

This will keep on happening, just as how they try to shove ads to you in any way possible.

::: spoiler alert: they are invading the HDMI protocol :::

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

And don't let Ethel in Finance have administrator access and cat screensavers, that helps too.

I so much wish I was joking.