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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Love the idea, but just to be the devil's advocate, I think it will just mask garbage videos. Currently, the clickbait thumbnails and titles are an indicator to blacklist a channel, without having to waste time watching it.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately because of the way Youtube's algorithm works, even high quality channels are buried if they don't play the game.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Got any examples? I don't recall any actually quality and worthwhile channels that still use those dumb thumbnails.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Veritasium, he even has a video crunching the numbers as an explanation why he has to doit

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you have a link to the video? I casually skimmed through his video list for the past year or so, but none of the titles jumped out at me for this.

Could also be a good example of why this extension sounds cool haha

Edit: Found it just a few more videos below here I stopped haha. "Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective" https://youtu.be/S2xHZPH5Sng

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that one I stopped hating clickbait so much after watching it, trying to become immune to it

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

LTT and SmarterEveryDay to name two.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

All those channels in the screenshot in this post.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you look at the DeArrow website and browser extension pages, I made sure to only use high quality channels as examples (Tom Scott, CGP Grey) to demonstrate how far reaching the sensationalism problem is.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

CGP Grey is personally painful to me. He used to be a no-nonsense education youtube legend, but in the last few years he's just maximised clickability - even going thorugh his whole back catalogue and changing titles and thumbnails.

For example, he made a great video about generative adversarial networks ~5 years ago but now its titled "How machines like ChatGPT learn" - despite coming out before GPT.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Pretty much every successful YouTube channel edits titles. It's just part of the algorithm game now. You will often see videos cycle through several different titles shortly after release.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

You have to blame YouTube and the people who click those garbage thumbnails

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yep.... that one is just rediculus

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tom Scott's thumbnails aren't that bad IMO, they're pretty minimal in comparison to some other channels.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But they are so much worse than they were 6 months ago. He's gone and ruined all of the old ones too with arrows and more deceptive titles.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

The Real Engineering video used as an example here is excellent.