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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (4 children)

55% of tax dollars in the united states goes to social programs, social security, and healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

I saw them give trillions of free dollars to companies that had just received three years of extremely vigorous tax cuts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, the military spending is actually pretty loosely connected to the shitty safety net. It's basically hostile to the poor just because. Historically, racial resentment drove a lot of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And tax dollars from the US are funding Palestinian genocide through ISRAHELL.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Changing the name of countries and groups every time you mention them is cringe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Difficult considering social security isn't a tax. Without looking it up my guess is that number rolls up the 14-15% of SS and Medicare taxes so the real number is lower.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Handy Infographic from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO):
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  • Total Federal outlays: $6.1 Trillion
  • Federal Social Spending
    • Social Security: $1.3T
    • Medicare: $0.839T
    • Medicaid: $0.616T
    • Income Security Programs: $0.448T
    • Total Social Spending: $3.203T

Math warning:

(3.203T / $6.1T) * 100% = 52.5%  

So, not quite the previous poster's 55%, but pretty close. There is also an "Other" column which likely includes other social spending and may have gotten us to that number. But, it's enough of a mixed bag, and way too much work, to try and pick it all out.

While the US could certainly adjust it's spending in a lot of good ways, the idea that the US spends "nothing" on social programs is provably false. These numbers also get weird and much harder to pin down when we look at State level taxes and spending. Many years ago, I dug into education spending in the US. And while Federal Education spending is a drop in the bucket, the actual number is pretty large, because it's considered a State responsibility and each State spends large amounts of money on it.

For example, my home State of Virginia budgets $29.9 Billion for "Health and Human Services" this Fiscal Year 2024 and $25.0 Billion for "Education", those two line items eating up about 62% of the State budget.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, and your math makes sense, but I think this is a misinterpretation by op. It's fair to say that as a percentage of expenditure... But not tax dollars.

Social security gets complicated because it's set up as a trust fund and has investments that grow to support disbursement rates. It also means that the expenditures should be carved out, same as the inbound tax. This should shift the calculations meaningfully.

[–] ryathal 1 points 7 months ago

Social security is a Ponzi scheme, not a trust fund. There's no growing pot of money, the inbound payments are directly used to pay current benefits.