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New Major Features for 3.0

  • Upgraded to Fedora 40
    • KDE Plasma 6 - GNOME 46 - Linux Kernel 6.8 - AMD/Intel GPU driver upgrades
    • Ayn Loki Max Pro support
    • Ayn Loki Zero support
    • Improvements for supported handhelds
      • HHD Overlay is now stable
      • Gyro support parity with Lenovo Legion Go
      • Charge limits set for Lenovo Legion Go
      • ASUS ROG Ally custom TDP that use the kernel driver
      • Custom fan curve support for ASUS ROG Ally
    • Added CDEmu
    • Added Ollama ujust command
    • Added fastfetch
    • Added zoxide

All of that, and more details about the rest can be read on the announcement page here ---> https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/announcing-bazzite-3-0/1218

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 7 months ago (2 children)

In case, like me, you hadn't heard of Bazzite before:

Bazzite is an OCI image that serves as an alternative operating system for the Steam Deck, and a ready-to-game SteamOS-like for desktop computers, handheld PCs, and living room home theater PCs.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

It's basically Nobara, but properly done. (If you choose the desktop version)

It gets updates automatically (max one day after upstream Fedora), has everything you want ootb in the first start wizard, is more secure, and much more.

I was very sceptical at first, but after trying it out, I really noticed some minor performance improvements in games and many QoL improvements, e.g. the preinstalled LACT, which allows me to set up fan curves and over-/ underclock my GPU.

Setting up my new PC took me about half an hour maximum.

9/10, I highly recommend it to anyone who wants a smooth gaming experience.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What has nobara not properly done? I wanted to try it as a daily driver.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

The only issue I can see is this is more of a team effort, and Nobara has always primarily been for GER and his Dad. The differences though are minimal, though I will always sway towards something with the image based design of Bazzite for a gaming/work setup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

But then why don't you simply develop a toolkit that installs all those things and sets things up properly on a standard fedora install?

This seems something with too big of an attack surface.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

installs all those things and sets things up properly on a standard fedora install?

That's exactly what all universal blue images do. It's just that setup is done every single day in github from scratch and stamped out as an image so that the end result gets to your computer as a finished deployment artifact. Leads to better update reliability, built in rollback.

The biggest benefit is that it's easier for a community to fix the fast moving gamer stuff as a config layer on top of a distro that's delivered this way than me having to manually figure out what component of my gaming setup changed that week.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That would be very very hard and unreliable.

Bazzite is more than just "preinstalled Steam", it has a list of tweaks, optimizations and additions so long you can't even finish reading it all! 😅
This includes a different kernel, pre-configured containers, and much more.
If you do that on a regular system, configuration drift would quickly destroy any good experience in no time and result in a huge mess.

uBlue provides a solid base distribution (pretty much stock Fedora) and applies exactly your way, but in upstream, and then copies that new image to millions of PCs. By doing that, you can provide many many identical copies that are the same everywhere and always up to date, without the burden of maintaining a whole distro like on Nobara.
The hard and boring work of maintaining a distro is on the shoulders of the Fedora team, and you only have to maintain your own changes.

This seems something with too big of an attack surface.

Not really.

  • Most stuff is installed in containers
  • The pros of image based distros still apply here in terms of reliability, security, etc.
  • Its no more than a few hours away from upstream stock Fedora
  • Most apps (Lutris, OBS, etc.) are optional and opt-in, if you just click "next, next, next" in the installer you'll get a relatively vanilla experience compared to stock Fedora
[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

You could do that. With that image everything is vompletely equal on the user device which means that debugging is much easier. Ublue makes distributing custom fedoras increadibly easy.

[–] huskypenguin 10 points 7 months ago

How does it have a large attack surface? I thought being immutable reduced the surface.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I am intrigued. Presently using Nobara right now, and I've been running into strange issues, like the whole system suddenly becoming unwritable and Firefox crashing out of the blue and needing an entire system reboot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Have not tried immutable distros, but I like the idea that the core OS is read-only to prevent a rookie user from messing things up.

Then again, if the core OS is read-only, is it at all possible to modify some system files like fstab files to auto-load drives?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

/etc is completely writeable. This is why we don't use the term "immutable distros" because Bazzite and the rest of universal blue are neither immutable nor distros.

(This is why Fedora moved to the term Atomic)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Noted. I guess used the wrong definition for Bazzite and that confused me. LOL.

Good to know that /etc is writable. I might have to download it and give it a spin. Thanks for clarifying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yes, I don't know all of the details, but most of the system config files like fstab and such are modifiable. I automount my NAS by putting a command in fstab.