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LG to offer subscriptions for already purchased appliances and televisions, evolving into a provider for “Home as a Service”::Subscription fatigue is a thing and regulators are circling, but Korean giant reckons you're ready to cough up after buying hardware

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What’s your issue with Spotify?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

My biggest issue is how they took Podcasts, which have always been open RSS feeds for audio (and Apple, the largest player, kept open and public for decades) and started making exclusivity deals that only work through their app, with invasive analytics and monetization.

My second issue is how Spotify wants me to manage my library the way they believe I should: emphasize playlists, kinda add songs to a library, ignore albums. For instance, on Apple Music if I add 3 songs from an album to my library, I can go to the Albums menu and the album will show up there - even though I only have 3 songs. On Spotify, I either add an entire album, or if I only add the songs, the album won't show up in the albums view. In fact, the whole "liked songs" section feels like an afterthought they added after impementing playlists, while on Apple Music and most oldschool music library software the song library was the main view and the songs added there populated all other fields such as artists or albums. Ironically, Apple Music is got intelligent playlists that work way better than Spotify's, with the downside being they can only be created via iTunes which is ancient software.

My third issue is what are the value adds to the subscription as the years go by: Spotify added short videos, QR codes, inconsistent lyrics and digital stores that aren't even converted to my local currency... While Apple Music added karaoke lyrics, lossless audio, spatial audio (even on my Android), remasters straight from the studio, and more. It's totally subjective, but Spotify's gimmicks aren't worth it to me.

My fourth issue is just the number of tracks that are no longer available on Spotify from my library. Apple Music lost a few, YouTube Music slightly less, and Spotify quite a lot which surprised me.

As you can see, it's not like Spotify killed my cat and replaced my audio library with a 10 hour loop of fart sounds... But I have deep concerns over their treatment of podcasts, I really dislike their philosophy on how to organize a music library (and they offer less customization than an Apple product, how crazy is that?), they're becoming increasingly more popular yet their catalogue is actually shrinking for my music taste, and I don't see real improvements in the service while their competitors keep adding actual value as time goes on.

Either way, don't mind me - I'm actually now using a huge library of FLAC files on my PC that get converted to MP3 and sent to my phone. Free, no songs vanish, no internet connection, no issues 😄

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good explanation. Apple Music is still solid for me and I greatly prefer it over Spotify since I prefer listening to and collecting albums over playlists. Am also not a fan of what they’ve done with podcasts, the overall sound quality or the integration with the products I use.

While not ideal, I’ve found that most of the songs or music removed is due to some weird licensing issue and is still there. For example Wolfmother’s first album needing to be re-added as the 10th anniversary edition. Kind of annoying still but manageable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I also have no interest in the Spotify “value adds”: they add no value for me. Last year I did try to leave, with their focus on podcasts that seem actively harmful to society, but their play lists are just the way I like to listen to music. Apple Music kept annoying me with focus on albums, and iverly targeted play lists, so I did come back

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

My fourth issue is just the number of tracks that are no longer available on Spotify from my library.

Yes this is what led me back to buying and downloading music again to keep a local back up of.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I use podcast addict. It works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I get the podcast thing. I never use it, and I don’t think most others do. I’m hoping they just kill the idea at some point but who knows.

The library used to be more straightforward, but in the most recent updates or at least since I’ve started using it again it’s seemed much more playlist focused. To me, this actually makes more sense - with iTunes the “universe” of music is what I have downloaded, with Spotify it doesn’t really matter what’s in my library, everything is already accessible. Rarely do I just browse by artist in my library when using Spotify.

That being said, I do like to add music to iTunes still and sync it to my iPod as I have no faith that Spotify will be around for my entire lifespan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’d love to switch to Apple Music. I wish it’s let you add an artist to your library instead of individually doing all their albums.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

The podcast thing is not Spotify’s fault, it’s an industry-wide thing.

As podcasting took off, the most popular podcast hosts wanted to be fairly paid for their stardom. An exclusive distribution deal is the easiest way for the podcaster, who otherwise would have to grind their audience with paid subscriptions or intrusive sponsorships.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

For the same price, Apple Music provides lossless audio quality, Dolby Atmos, 4K music videos (you can’t even get those on YouTube), karaoke (Apple Music Sing), and a personalized radio station that doesn’t feed you the exact same stuff every week. Plus you can use third-party apps like Marvis Pro with your AM subscription, so you’re not locked to one app’s GUI.