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When I see these kind of posts I can't help but think that maybe they're being made by people who could be astroturfing for another company and it’s OS, in a negative way, to redirect the narrative.
Because Microsoft cares so much about an 18.6K-member community called “linuxmemes” on a small federated Reddit alternative known for being filled with die-hard Linux fans and furries?
The company a corporation would hire to do that sort of thing would use a shotgun approach to the redirection postings. With bots it would be easy for them to do.
Ah, how could I have forgotten the legion of MSFT contract employees scouring… fucking… furaffinity for that sweet, delectable anti-Linux propaganda lmao
Because having bots backed by AI and a preset list of sites/forums to post to would be way too much of an effort and impossible to automate/do, right? /s
(And for the record, mentioning 'bots' for the second time now.)
Sure, because Linux is such a threat to Microsoft
A smart CEO doesn't look at just today, but looks at tomorrow as well.
'Kill the baby in the crib' is a valid option to a CEO.
There's ~~vermin~~ furries here?
Gross.
Careful of the venn diagram — if you're talking to a member of a Linux community on Lemmy, chances are they aren't anti-furry.
I will die on this hill. Their down votes mean nothing to me. I've seen what makes them cheer.
i think it's a sort of meta ironic joke. The joke here is that it's not working, and they're trying to figure out why it's not working, because linux actually lets you do this to some significant capacity.
Yeah, no, not sure if I can agree with that interpretation. To me it seemed more like it was showing the frustration of the user trying to use Linux that doesn't work, and having to debug the problem, adding to the frustration.
If it was expressing what you're saying it was, then there would be one more final frame to the comic showing some kind of Linux 'hero' plot device solving the problem, or pointing out there really isn't a problem.
i mean, admittedly debugging is not fun, i would know, it's literally what i do in my spare time (i've spent thousands of hours working on autistic redstone trying to make it fucking work because it looks pleasing to the eye and runs fastlier)
It's awful, the amount of swears i've said in relation to it is probably higher than politics, ironically. Granted, i still love doing this shit, it's just grueling from time to time. It's part of the lifestyle.
If it had one more frame it would no longer have a significant punchline though. That's why i think it's a meta joke. We as linux users often goad about the wonderful nature of linux, but when someone asks about it, we talk about all the shit that can break. Or it's just the fact that it's pretty easy to do things wrong sometimes.
For example, a while ago i was having an issue with video playback being incredibly sluggish. Turns out it was pipewire not running, which was weird. You would think a video would play fine without audio, and it should, but apparently that one case of not having audio output really fucked shit up.
That's what we call a conspiracy theory
Why? You honestly don't believe that corporations never try to manipulate the narrative/message for their benefit/profit?
Early Microsoft was well known for wielding the FUD factor.
I really doubt they're wasting time astroturfing a Linux community on Lemmy. You're not going to convince hardcore devotees with a meme.
A bots (not human) time is very easy to waste, and if your product is having problems right now, one of the first things corporations would do to protect their profits is to try to reshape the narrative away from the problems, from the negative final spotlight on your product.
And finally, as I've linked before in this conversation, Microsoft has a long history of using FUD.
They're not directed just towards the 'hardcore the devotees', they're also directed at the person who's considering moving, who's trying to do some research about it, and does searching about it, and then finds the memes/communities.
Stopping potential switchers before they switch is a powerful thing to do to preserve your products/profits.
And if you do these memes/messages often, and if they send a certain message/narrative, you would definitely introduce FUD into the people who would consider moving to Linux.
Pay attention to the meta.
No i believe that they are actively protect and promote their systems.
But the likelihood of them coordinating a meme based offensive against the, is it 4% now? of Linux users is very small compared to the likelihood of a self aware Linux user.
I am sure that you could turn this into me being hired by Microsoft to defend their agenda but in the end, the most plaussible explanation is usually the true one
But we're seeing an uptick recently like we haven't seen before, as it seems like the momentum is on the Linux side right now.
Also a standard good policy is to 'kill the baby in the crib', especially so when there seems to be more dissatisfaction with Windows 11 these recent days.
A potent combination of situations.
And finally, there's nothing wrong (from a CEOs point of view) with just 'beating down' your competition every day of the week, regardless of their current market share, especially when it's easy to do so.
Honestly? The thought has come to my mind, that you're actually an AI bot, part of the process to protect the current redirection of the narrative. Not hired by Microsoft per se, but a bot used by the company that any OS company would hire to shape the narrative.
And the fact that you brought it up first preemptively, and the way you use your verbiage, adds to the suspicion.
You're assuming yours is the most plausible explanation.
You keep dismissing the ease of use of using AI bots in today's environment to redirect the narrative, and how often we're seeing it done across all Internet-based media today.
There's companies out there that actually sell these services to corporations, and profit from doing so. Profit is always a strong motive generator.
I won't even try to convince you of the opposite or that i'm human. I even occasionally fail capcha tests so who knows!?
So you 'say'.
Honestly, I don't care either way if the sources are biological or electrical.
My concern is the message itself and the redirecting the narrative negatively away from good products/services, and not if it's a human or bot that's doing it.
My only point in mentioning bots is that they're very inexpensive to be used constantly (versus human beings), and are widely being used today.