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[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Java is looking more and more cool.

Too bad companies are still stuck on Java 8๐Ÿ˜”

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

which is why the world should just move to kotlin

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

just move to rust and be done with it :)

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Seriously though, Java devs? Moving to Rust?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What's so surprising about that?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Java is a lot more high-level than Rust. Rust is even a different paradigm.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So? If a Java dev wants to learn Rust, they'll make it. There are a lot of burned out Java devs wanting to move to something that feels new and exciting again.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

But after evaluating the options, I think most would choose the easier language to learn.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Too bad companies are still stuck on Java 8๐Ÿ˜”

It's the only one that matters ๐Ÿฅฒ Think of the shareholders.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why is this? Did they introduce breaking changes to the language or something?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Nah, it's more of inaction on the companies' part. There are so many reasons for that, but IMO it boils down to poor engineering culture.

[โ€“] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

That's bad. 8 hasn't been getting the essential security updates since march 2022. Of course money can buy a lot, but it's still a bad idea. Even the Dutch govern.e t has mostly made the transition and they are no known for their elasticity

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

8 hasnโ€™t been getting the essential security updates since march 2022.

That's not really true despite what Oracle claims. Even without dropping money for Oracle's 2030 support, there's been 9 releases to OpenJDK 8 so far in 2024. Amazon has guaranteed OpenJDK 8 LTS through 2026 as "corretto" for justifying it to corporate compliance teams.

Everyone really should upgrade but it's going to be several years yet before it's an actual security risk.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)