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Friday Social is back! So we know we are all Lisp programmers here and we love the language and use it.

But I am sure some of us work with other languages too. Like I have to work with C, C++, Python and a number of other languages to work on different projects. I am sure some of you do too.

So the questions for this Friday Social are:

  1. What Lisp programming languages do you use?
  2. What non-Lisp programming languages do you use?
  3. What is your favorite Lisp programming language? Why?
  4. What is your favorite non-Lisp programming language? Why?
  5. What is that one thing about your favorite non-Lisp language that you wish to see in your favorite Lisp language?

Happy Friday!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

@cadar

  1. What Lisp programming languages do you use?

Nowadays I mostly use Kawa. I used to be a dedicated Guile user, for which I developed the (grand scheme) glossary, and I still use it occasionally for small things, but I'm now developing a project that relies heavily on Kawa (#GRASP).
I sometimes use Racket, especially when I need some GUI.

I also use Emacs Lisp occasionally.

  1. What non-Lisp programming languages do you use?

I mostly use C at my day job. I also write some code in Dart and Go as well as bash scripts and makefiles. I sometimes also use Python. I also have professional experience with PHP, JavaScript, C++, C# and x86 assembly

  1. What is your favorite Lisp programming language? Why?

For a long time I was very happy with Guile, especially as I was using it with my (grand scheme) glossary - it really made the language terse.

But after using Kawa, I find the lack of checked type annotations (in macroexpanded positions) really annoying. Also, I like it that Kawa provides access to Java-like OO system (that I like way more than GOOPS that comes with Guile).

I think that porting the (grand scheme) glossary to Kawa would be nice, but that would probably require some changes in the compiler.

  1. What is your favorite non-Lisp programming language? Why?

I occasionally look at solutions to Advent of Code in various different languages, and beside my solutions in (grand scheme), I enjoy the ones in F# the most.

(They are usually quite similar in their spirit)

I also pretty much enjoy using Dart - I think that its designers are doing a great job.

  1. What is that one thing about your favorite non-Lisp language that you wish to see in your favorite Lisp language?

I really wished that Kawa offered Dart-like object system, which in practice would mean things like mix-ins and extension methods, and more decent generics.