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Clearly not a popular opinion on the internet but.... Blairite business as usual is actually winning elections and getting a chance to enact reforms as opposed to preaching to the choir with no influence.
I really do hope we get over this idea that if you're not a direct descendant of Arthur Scargill himself then you're some sort of right wing pariah. Starmer (or Blair / Brown) might not be to people's liking but they're far from the right wing nutters we have had in power for the last fourteen years.
I hope people are realistic and understand that we need at least a parliament to put into place plans to undo the damage the Conservatives have done. Nothing is instant, nothing is cheap.
Edit: Freudian typo.
It amazing that this "you might not like him, but suck it up to get rid of the Tories" attitude wasn't present when Corbyn was leader. No, it was an endless tide of infighting, coups and splintering. How are we suppose to take these pleas to get rid of the Tories seriously after watching the Labour Right do everything in its power to hand the Tories the last two elections?
I do wonder, given it was "antisemitism" that finally sunk Corbyn, how he'd do now. Critising Israel is no longer a problem. Infact large segments of society are calling for a far more critical stance on Israel and its actions.
It would have just been something else. Antisemitism is just the one that stuck, but if that hadn't worked they would have kept trying to put people off one way or another.
As much as Corbin had decent ideas, his handling of the press was abysmal
To me, Corbyn's problem was being too nice. When the party needed an old fashioned Stalinist purge of Blairites he made the arch Blairite his Brexit secretary.
When Blair purged socialists from the party he rejected calls for Corbyn to be expelled, because he didn't consider him a threat, you should always learn from your opponents' mistakes.