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[–] [email protected] 94 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Gaddafi's is just sad. Such a terrible decision to give up their nuclear deterrence and trust western governments.

Nukes are why the DPRK hasn't been invaded again, and why it hasn't ended up Libya is now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ukraine gave up their nukes in exchange for peace with Russia, then got invaded by Russia.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

they weren't ukrainian nukes. they were soviet nukes and ukraine didn't have the money or expertise to take care of them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t put it that way exactly. Ukraine was a constituent part of the USSR, and eastern Ukraine was a major industrial hub. I don’t know the history of it, but perhaps giving the nukes to Russia was part of the deal made in the Post-Soviet transition in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Russia inherited the Soviet military for the most part. It's unlikely that Ukraine could have used those nukes in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine was very much at peace with Russia as it always had been before the 2014 coup and the resulting fascist gov that didn't care about such agreements.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The fascist government is the one invading Ukraine, my guy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Did Libya have a substantial development program?