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[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Diets don't work for me. I get hungry before bed time. My body doesn't tolerate healthy foods. I can't lose weight because I don't have time to make it my No1 priority. Losing weight isn't as simple as "just eating less" , , ,

I love fat people excuses, just admit that you'd rather have an unhealthy body than put the effort and self control in to gaining a healthy one. I've heard literally every imaginable excuse except "I'm being force fed!"

Some overweight people pretend that they are happy at their size, but give them a magic button that will turn their body fit and healthy in an instant and see how many of them refuse to press it. They literally can't not just delay the gratification of excess food now in return for a healthy body that could months or years away.

Whilst I do have sympathy for people with severe medical or mental issues which are a primary cause for their excess weight, these causes are just not applicable for the vast majority of obese people.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

As an overweight person, I mostly agree. I just think there are way more people with mental issues than you seem to think.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I think anyone addicted to the dopamine rush of food to the point they are an unhealthy weight has a mental issue, same as someone addicted to tobacco, alcohol, or any drug where overuse is unhealthy. It's incredibly common, it's just that obesity seems to be the most outwardly visible of those addictions and therefore gets shamed more. I don't think shaming people into quitting an addiction is an effective strategy, but I also don't believe affirming their choices with misinformation is favorable either. I think promoting awareness and giving compassionate support are the only real effective strategies, and while I think that's commonly understood and used by most caring people, that doesn't seem to be a viewpoint that gets attention on the Internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Thank you! Here is so much hate ._.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention the fact that mental health issues are not handled well by the general public at all. I have seen so much vitriol, dismissal, and skepticism towards anyone who talks about their mental health journey. And in my experience those who will shame me for being overweight will often insinuate that I made up my diagnoses or doctor shopped until I got what I wanted. You really can’t win for losing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I can only agree.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (8 children)

I don't really understand why people get so aggro like this and start fat shaming. Like, do you react this way whenever someone smokes cigarettes or drinks alcohol? It's other people's bodies. I have honestly never heard anyone say these excuses. I normally see fat people shaming and beating up on themselves. This kind of shit makes them feel like it's not even okay to be seen because of this shit. Shame is not the answer.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago

…what? People shame others for drinking and smoking all the time. Bad example.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

What are you on about? We've literally kicked smokers out of public spaces and increased their insurance rates. Alcohol in excess will also get thrown in jail.

It's not shaming anyone, to point out when something is objectively unhealthy. No-one is going around hounding people for eating an extra slice of pizza or having a drink with dinner.

But,when you are eating a whole pizza a day or are drunk at 8am people should point out that hey maybe that's not the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol. I'm an unhealthy addict. Obesity is a disease that shouldn't be shamed, like any other addiction/ condition. It should definitely be acknowledged/ treated, though.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Most smokers I know are well aware of how unhealthy their habit is, and would quit if it was easy. They don't make excuses.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm not shaming all fat people. Just the ones that only make excuses for their weight or pretend that it is healthy.

I couldn't be prouder or more supportive of an overweight person that decides enough is enough, takes ownership of their body, that they're going to lose weight and stick with it until they reach their goal.

To use your analogy, I don't care if someone drinks or smokes, but if they start pretending that it's not a choice they make it or that it's healthy, then yh, that's a problem and I don't think it's a bad thing to call them out for that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

To your hypothetical: no one talks bad about a consumer until they do so at an excessive level.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

If shame was the answer, nobody would still be obese. There is always an underlying cause, and it isn't because of a character flaw. Often people use food as a maladaptive way of coping with emotional abuse or neglect, SA, or other things.

It's another example of people being shallow, self-righteous assholes with a narrow perspective and no willingness to understand or empathize with fellow humans.

Sort of like how some people are anti-trans (usually anti MtF trans). Often these people are so pathetic they have to bash others to feel better about themselves. It's the same mentality as blaming poor people for not having more money. Or dismissing drug addicts as subhuman garbage rather than fucked up people with a disease.

This kind of shit makes them feel like it's not even okay to be seen because of this shit.

That's exactly their intent. They don't see fat people as equally human. They see them as people who aren't as good as they are and they would just as soon fat people "go away".

People born on third base thinking they hit a triple. As if having well adjusted parents and not having a mental disorder and not experiencing CSA and so on was somehow all their own doing and not just the luck of the draw.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

People love to seek flaws in others so that they have to see their own flaws. Or shame others because they can't fathom that those are happy how they are while the shamers are constrained in their own thinking.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was once 300 pounds. If you can't eat healthy foods just fast. Be hungry. Make it your #1 priority. Yes, some of these comments are mean, but your stance that healthy foods are intolerable seems ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The whole meme is just shitty and not funny. Maybe do something about it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Then downvote it. Everyone's sense of humor is different.