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ME READING WARHAMMER 40K BOOKS IN 2018: this setting is so fucking dumb. No way a society would let their entire technological infrastructure be controlled by a handful of fanatics that have convinced themselves that computer code is literally God

ME NOW: Ah,

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

afaik (i know very little) there is no canon explanation for what exactly a machine spirit is, so it could be old ai programs or somesuch.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Machine Spirit is (mostly) an abstraction. The AdMech as a whole is a collection of tech support geeks whose documentation and manfiles were converted to hymns 10,000 years ago. Very few members actually have any significant understanding of what they're doing anymore. They just know that if they speak the Holy Words of System Reset and then poke the button with a circle on it, the machine spirit dies and resurrects anew.

So, mostly, no, AI has been well and truly eradicated in 40k and most of what is referred to as "Machine Spirit" is just semi-basic technology being crabby like it already does in the modern day. When a modern programmer says his system is "thinking" or is "upset" he doesn't mean it literally - AdMech just forgot that language wasn't literal.

That said, there are a few suspiciously intelligent and well-informed Machine Spirits in a few places. A couple of them can outright hold a conversation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

You should read up on the League of Votann.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

There is, actually. They are one of three things:

AI, VI, Warp Spirits.

Plenty of machines have AIs that are either hiding, hibernating, or degraded. There are also plenty of VI programs that are just very complex and sometimes will function in ways their users don't understand.

The rest... Well, belief matters when your species is made up of latent psychics. The best way to get a helpful machine spirit is to treat it with respect, so a decent number of machines that had VIs become something more with time. Not only will it empower the spirit, it will prevent it from falling to Chaos...

In theory.

[–] prettybunnys 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In my mind that’s what they were, though as a kid I had clippy in mind instead of Siri

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"it looks like you're trying to obliterate a heretic! do you need help?"

[–] prettybunnys 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

ctrl + alt + stab