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Love that americans are still worried about elections of all things as if anything other than organized violence will stop a capitalist government from committing genocide.
americans are too chickenshit and comfortable to do anything than complain. i wish we were more like the french.
I thought that was what the 2nd Armament was for, but apparently it's actually for killing school children.
Only the brown ones, but yes. See: Mulford act
The white kids who die are just an acceptable cost, I guess.
The #1 thing I've noticed this go round is how the best even the most dem pundits and supporters can come up with is "Yeah Biden does it but Trump will do it worse"
I’m not even convinced that’s true when it comes to this issue. Trump, at least, narcissistically cares about what people think of him enough that he could maybe be swayed by public opinion. Biden has been a hardline Zionist his entire career and sees backing Israel to the hilt despite the public outcry as a moral imperative.
Besides, how do you get worse than eagerly aiding a genocide?
when Trump was in office, liberals at least pretended to care. They took COVID somewhat seriously, masked up out of spite, they paid lip service to the BLM protests. These past 4 years they've truly gone back to brunch. maybe if ol' Mango Mussolini gets back in, they'll pretend to give a shit again.
Yeah. I don’t know Trump would help this situation at all but it wouldn’t be this bullshit. That’s for sure. And I want to be very clear I do not and did not want a president trump.
Ttumo has explicitly said he thinks Israel needs to finish the job.
Jesus Christ, inform yourself before you say shit like this.
Trump says a lot doesn’t mean him or his party would be doing the same if they were in this role lol.
If you want to believe that Ttunp is lying to you about his feelings towards Palestinians, than there is nothing I can say to change your mind.
That is pure uninformed lunacy and you absolutely know better.
I think he wouldn't be as good at it, and there would be more public outrage.
So... You think the path to ending the genocide is get Trump elected and continue complaining and just hope it goes well?
Eagerly aiding a genocide while also doing one at home, but you know biden wouldn't stop it if the fascists just did one, so he's not really better than trump OK that either.
At least if trump tries to genocide me, he'll be using poorly primed hierarchal power and you'll get a lot of mutinies. Like, a non-trump fasch genocide is blood in the streets, and I'm so fucking shit at that, so my odds are like 10% and its definitely a bad time. If trump orders it, There's a 50/50 chance the local air force base mutinies and flips on him because poverty draft, and I either get s hellfire missile or I don't.
Sufficiently grand disorganized violence or sufficiently organized property destruction could also work.
Hey we're not hungry enough yet. Violence is scary and we won't do it till we absolutely gotta. I mean we absolutely gotta but even as i know this I'm not picking up a gun yet, i still have a lot to lose. It's not like it's just here in the states, it's happening all over the western world. When will you decide to take up arms and take your life back?
I'm not attacking you, just putting you in my yankee shoes
Israel is committing genocide with American bombs and American protection and American approval. This war could be ended if Biden just stopped giving them more bombs and stopped protecting Israel from the consequences of its actions. Israel is the 51st State, America's unsinkable aircraft carrier, it's an American genocide. We don't get to hide behind a proxy and pretend we are not directly responsible.
"Israel" is a US colony; it's entire existence hinges on the latter.
Its formation used common british colonization tactics [III], with companies literally named "Colonization Commission", "Jewish Colonial Trust" and the like.
Theodor Herzl, founder of the colonial ideology he called "zionism", was himself also just a racist colonizer by his own admission, and saw it as bringing ‘civilization’ to ‘barbarians’ as the rest of Europe did when they were colonizing and enslaving Africa and Asia:
Only difference now is that the US has been the de facto leader of the imperial core since WW2, no longer UK in Europe.
And capitalist governments work for the interests and profit of capitalists rather than workers as is the reason for the genocide here (keeping the middle east unstable and unable to unite against imperialism with a colony right in the middle of Africa and Asia), so yes that does matter.
The government does not represent you since you're not a capitalist, so trying to change something as massive as a genocide through it is pointless, specially when the only other option is just as bad, if not worse. The only thing that will change it is organizing and pressuring it from the outside.
Rather than "intervening" like you want other countries to do against a nuclear state, has the US considered not directly funding and facilitating the genocide?
I think I disagree with this.
Puerto Rico is a colony. There's a very clear difference in how the empire treats colonies and how it treats extensions of itself. Israel, rather than being a colony, is actually just an extension of the US empire. It's like the 51st state, it's an equal partner in the imperial project.
Love how you ignore everything they said and bring up something completely unrelated to derail the conversation lmao
Edit: but, what are your feelings about the us colony's genocide in palestine?
The american chauvinist cannot comprehend people being from other countries