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Are you tired of going into controversial threads and having people not discuss things, circlejerking, or using emotional responses in place of logic? Us too.

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No, it's not a joke. I'm frustrated and I'm probably not choosing my words carefully.

This community has had steadily falling engagement - our last 3 weekly threads have had a grand total of 1 (excellent and well-articulated) response, and the number of topics not generated by myself (or the other mod) since the inception of the community has also been 1.

Very few people want to actually talk. From what I've seen, the masses want the same things that they wanted on Reddit:

  1. Memes
  2. Articles they don't read (but will bitch about endlessly) that reinforce their opinion
  3. Angry responses to someone (who may be trolling) that reinforce the current politics of the reader (that they couldn't have given a fuck about a few years ago until it became heavily politicized)
  4. Shitty easy jokes
  5. Personal politics circlejerking

I hate that I can see a hundredth point-free meme post and view 200 replies on it. I hate that it's just the same talking points being strawmanned over and over again in every thread. I hate that any point outside common groupthink is downvoted to oblivion and buried instead of discussed.

The reason I'd like to back away from Lemmy seems to be the same reason I started this community: we need more people who can articulate points, and less downvoting, but it doesn't seem to be getting better.

Maybe one day, but today is not that day. Lemmy needs to mature in more ways than one.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’d help us out a lot if we could disable downvotes, for instance.

Did you consider moving to an instance with downvotes disabled? https://reddthat.com/ is a great instance without downvotes, it might suit well for your community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's... not a terrible idea. Do you know what that entails? Is there an easy way to move things, or is it just a matter of starting the new one up fresh?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hello,

Just coming back after a few weeks for a small feedback: we successfully moved from [email protected] to [email protected]. It's definitely doable, especially if your community is quite active and you announce it beforehand

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

[email protected]

Nice! Link updated in the sidebar. How has it affected the Community so far?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Thanks ! Not a lot, activity is at a similar level if not more, so all good!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Also, https://reddthat.com/ have solved their federation issues, so you could definitely move there if you wanted to

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

You can just open another one there, and then when everything is ready, you open a post here to redirect people there, and you lock the community to make sure that people use the new one.

One caveat with Reddthat: the comments and posts and synchronized correctly, but votes from LW can take some time to synchronize (this is mostly due to the over centralization of people on LW, and the way Lemmy manages queue).

That might not be an issue if you don't worry too much about votes, but that's for you to decide.

More details here: https://reddthat.com/post/16122033?scrollToComments=true