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Legal status of cannabis possession for recreational use (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 8 months ago by garfaagel to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Based Germany

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The law has been changed literally today. I am surprised this infographic got it right.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

I would think it is reason they posted it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is very limited though. I would consider Germany more on the decriminalized side.

You are allowed to own a small amount. You are allowed to grow up to three plants at home. It is illegal to buy, sell, or import.

There is rules for having cannabis social clubs similiar to Spain, but the rules around them are quite complex and a lot of it remains unclear, until the law will have been interpreted in court decisions.

Some German states have already announced that they will make life hell for anyone smoking weed in legal public spaces or operating a legal cannabis social club. Also the level of permittable THC for driving is still undecided.

Currently any level of blood THC is considered a DUI and can not only get you a fine, but also a suspension of your drivers licencse with an extensive "medical psychological check up" if you want to regain your licencse. That "check up" is run by private businesses who also sell courses on which answers are right and which are wrong. Basically anything beyond "this was the only time i swear, i was in a bad place and i should have never done it and i am so sorry, and i will never do it again" is a wrong answer.

Now we had an expert proposal for a higher level of permittable blood THC. The proposed level has yet to pass but it would effectively be fine for occasional users, but still a problem for regular users, as it is close to the baseline THC level that they have.

So all in all it is a great step forward, especially considering how the "debate" from the political right and fascists was run around 1970s war on drug prohibition and cultural deprevation talking points. However it still creates many aspects to watch out for and it should be noted, that the political right wants to do everything to reverse the laws, when they likely win the elections next year. The problem with that is also that the center right social democrats are still internally devided, with many of them still thinking of weed as the devils lettuce.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Of the 9 countries who legalized it, 1 reverted that already, 6 don’t allow selling and one of those six doesn’t even have proper laws for it, only the supreme court ruling that private growing and possession can’t be banned. For a blue country Germany is mid-table.

In contrast to Canada and Uruguay Germany is hesitant to openly violate international treaties for this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It's a long time like that in Germany...

Oh wait... It's since..... today actually.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I can't decide if I think the stereotypically-uptight Germans being the first to legalize in Europe was unexpected or very expected.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Don't look into any details if you want to keep that opinion

Any details

Only adults may consume and/or own cannabis
No buying, selling or giving away weed
Only consuming cannabis you or your Cannabis Social Club (CSC), should you join one, grew is allowed. In a CSC cannabis may be grown and sold to its members
CSCs may not make profits
No more than 50 (30 if you are younger than 21) grams of cannabis per month may be handed out to you by your CSC
No cannabis with more than 10% THC may be handed out to people younger than 21
Consuming cannabis within 100 meters (visual range) of a playground, school, youth center, public sports facilities or CSCs is prohibited
Consuming cannabis between 7am and 8pm in a pedestrian zone is prohibited
Consuming cannabis "close" to minors is prohibited
No CSC may be established within 200 meters of a school or playground
max 500 members per CSC
no more than 1 CSC per 6000 city residents (or 1 CSC if the city/town has less than 6000 residents)
no extracting THC from cannabis
no owning more than 3 cannabis plants
no owning more than 50 grams of dried cannabis, including plants
no carrying around more than 25 grams of dried cannabis, including plants
CSCs have to keep meticulous records about their members, who received when how much cannabis and how much cannabis grew in total
police can just go and take these records without requiring a judge's approval
for the coming months: no driving a car or bicycle with more than 1 ng of THC in your blood or you will lose your car driver's license and pay a fine (yes, even if you're caught riding your bicycle, you will lose your car driver's license). Fun fact: the police announced they will significantly increase controls

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Ah, there's the uptightness I expected!

Also, LOL, only 500 out of every 6000 people are allowed to have weed they didn't grow individually. Of all the arbitrary restrictions, that seems the arbitrariest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

no owning more than 50 grams of dried cannabis, including plants

Plants don’t have dried cannabis on them.

No carrying around more than 25 grams

Being allowed to carry 25g in public is still a lot more than the 7g allowed in Malta and the 3g allowed in Luxembourg. Some US states only allow to posses 28g in total.