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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Wait isn't the point of Conservative, that they didn't do anything? Like, they leave things be, right? Liberals change stuff and conservatives don't do shit, or did I get that wrong?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The point of the branding yes, however the actual point of any right wing party in 2024 is not slowing change, but active regression.

Funnily, liberalism is the most politically aligned with not really doing anything, the whole philosophy more or less boils down to: we're not gonna get in the way of whatever you're up to as long as you're not getting in the way of what someone else is up to.

The left-wing is where progressive change actually comes from, and often you'll see resistance to actual progressive policy from both conservatives and liberals.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow there, is conservative now just automatically right wing? Didn't know that... (very much non-american here)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Yes, conservative has always meant right-wing from the very first use of the political "wing" terms. The conservatives sat on the right side of the room during the French Revolution.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That should be the point, but in modern politics (especially in the US, but also in much of the western world from what I can tell), the people calling themselves conservatives have tipped over into reactionary/fascist territory, and the liberals have rushed into the void they left and taken over the "No change/slow change" position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh no. Do liberals are just gone now? Or does America now just consist of right-wingers, slow change people and left-extremists (ay that's me)?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah, the forces actually fighting for positive change are usually labeled as progressives or leftists now, and we have little representation in many world governments at the moment (certainly very little in the US).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It's genius because now everyone is right wing

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Originally they were trying to conserve the monarchy as democracy swept through Europe. Here's a video that goes into more detail.

In modern times conservatives courted racists in the US with something called the southern strategy. This has lead all of them down the path to fascism.

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[–] Shiggles 2 points 5 months ago

Much as american “liberals” don’t really fit the moniker, “conservatives” are much more reactionary in america - actively trying to revert society rather than simply being content to impede progress.