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๐“˜ ๐“ฝ๐“ฑ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ด ๐“ฌ๐“ช๐“น๐“ฒ๐“ฝ๐“ช๐“ต ๐“› ๐“ฒ๐“ผ ๐“น๐“ป๐“ธ๐“ซ๐“ช๐“ซ๐“ต๐”‚ ๐“ฝ๐“ฑ๐“ฎ ๐“ถ๐“ธ๐“ผ๐“ฝ ๐“ฏ๐“พ๐“ท ๐“ฝ๐“ธ ๐”€๐“ป๐“ฒ๐“ฝ๐“ฎ, ๐“ฝ๐“ฑ๐“ธ๐“พ๐“ฐ๐“ฑ ๐“ต๐“ธ๐”€๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ฌ๐“ช๐“ผ๐“ฎ ๐“บ ๐“ฒ๐“ผ ๐“ช๐“ต๐“ผ๐“ธ ๐“ช ๐“ผ๐“ฝ๐“ป๐“ธ๐“ท๐“ฐ ๐“ฌ๐“ธ๐“ท๐“ฝ๐“ฎ๐“ท๐“ญ๐“ฎ๐“ป.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lowercase m, n, u, v, and w are confusing as shit when placed next to or near each other.

[โ€“] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago (5 children)
[โ€“] ilovededyoupiggy 31 points 7 months ago

So Donald Trump has been signing his name in Russian this whole time? It all makes sense now!

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I remember coming across a similar comment chain, and someone brought out cursive Hanzi, and everyone lost their minds.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I am going to show this to my Chinese teacher to see if it's in any way legible. Because honestly, I can't see that being readable by anybody.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

this feels like a shitpost and i wont fully believe it until - i dunno when.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

No, that's true. However, putting lines under e.g. the ัˆ makes it a bit more readable.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cyrilic cursive uses dashes in the same way Latin uses dots. Try writing "minimum' without them, and you'll get the same results.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is the first I'm hearing about dashes. What do you mean?

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

You know how ะธ and ะฟ have the same shape, but ะฟ has a dash on top? You can put the dash on the bottom to easily differentiate ะธ and ัˆ from ะผ and ะป.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Especially when people are writing 'garlands'.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Vacuum is another good one, or anniversary.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You got me writing 'vacuum' and 'anniversary' in cursive, and got so conscious about how I write it that my speed crawled to a stop and my handwriting got even worse than what I started with, lol!

In casual writing, I separate out v, w and other letters that are trickier to write in full cursive. Same goes with t, i, j so that I can do the crosses and dots before moving on.

All those seems to have done the job of making my cursive a bit easier to read. All hell breaks loose when I need to write really fast though.


EDIT: stupid formatting, lol!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I tried writing them so that I can post this. I might have failed in making them both cursive and legible, lol!

That very last line is my attempt at writing at speed. ๐Ÿ˜…

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Man, this must be what it feels like to be a teacher, all the time. It's cool though, much better than I can manage.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Lol~โ€Œ Thanks.

I grew up at a time when cursive is a requirement--not just for one class, but for all classes in primary school. I remember our teachers checking our notebooks and making comments on our handwriting. All our compositions and essays were required to be in cursive, and they check for penmanship, keeping margins and all that. It was a whole lot of effort for something that I rarely get to use in higher levels. I switched to print in HS, when cursive is no longer required.

[โ€“] mindbleach 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Some additional fun pangrams, for this purpose or otherwise:

Fix problem quickly with galvanized jets.

Pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs.

Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the pangrams. One problem I have with pangrams is that for demonstrating cursive writing, you also have to take into consideration how the letters join up. The letters would have a slightly different shape depending on the letters adjacent to them. In a way, it's like the Arabic script.

[โ€“] mindbleach 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's probably pan... ligature-grams. Some hideous paragraph that concisely demonstrates every valid pair. Ballpark, every letter has to appear once with a different letter after it, so an example would be on the order of one thousand characters.

That feels alarmingly like a programming puzzle for this late at night.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, it is. I'm kinda glad it's in the middle of the day here where I live. I wouldn't want to be up at night teasing this horrible, horrible combinatorics puzzle in bed.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I didn't mean the word, but the way some people write the letters 'm' and 'n' with the bows downwards, so that the look really similar to 'w' and 'u'.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Oh, yeah! Sometimes context helps, but if you can't even read a single word, you're just out of luck!