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I'm from a non-eu Country and I might start working soon in Denmark. My goal would be to eventually naturalize.

I always see people saying that naturalization is hard in Denmark, but what is exactly "hard" about it? In theory, if I meet the residency requirement, have a clean record, and have been employed, I should be fine, right?


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

KosmonautMikeDexter at 2024-03-25 11:53:41+00:00 ID: kwh1u85


There are a couple of things that you need to have in order to become a danish citizen:

You have to have had a job with permanent employment for 4 years in a row

You haven't been on state welfare

You need to be able to prove in writing that you can speak danish - you need an exam

You need a danish adress and a danish CPR-number

You need to have a permanent recidence permit to live in Denmark. That's probably to most important one.

When you get to the end of the line, you have to pass a cultural test and you have to shake hands with a mayor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

CarobCake at 2024-03-25 12:17:57+00:00 ID: kwh4pfq


There are also these complicated rules about how long you can be away from the country within the time you were a resident (or the last 12 years), which can add to the time you need to wait before applying.

In every year you travel for more than 4 weeks at a time or more than 6 weeks total you need to report that time away (and consider them "interruptions) and add it up, if it adds up more than 365 days you need to not have any more interruptions in the last 3 years before you apply (in addition to adding one year to your total time). But that's the rule now, who knows what it will be in nearly a decade from now...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

german-potatou (OP) at 2024-03-25 13:37:40+00:00 ID: kwhfkda


This one honestly sucks. Could you please provide me with a link to read more on the specifics?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

CarobCake at 2024-03-25 16:01:40+00:00 ID: kwi3t4z


The best place to figure this one out is a fb group called Permanent Residence and Citizenship in Denmark, lots of links to the resources and people telling their experiences, questions and answers, etc. I also think it sucks and am very annoyed to have to worry about it... I'm trying to stay within limits when possible and keep a log, but we'll see how it goes over the years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

LEVLFQGP at 2024-03-25 17:14:37+00:00 ID: kwihg9f


Here (it's in Danish): https://uim.dk/statsborgerskab/udenlandske-statsborgere/betingelser/ophold/

The specifics are in the PDF that is linked under the "Opholdsafbydelser" (Interruptions of residence) point ( https://uim.dk/media/9263/ophold-i-udlandet.pdf ).

But yes, keep a log.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Spurlock33 at 2024-03-25 12:11:19+00:00 ID: kwh3wmy


You haven't been on state welfare

When you get to the end of the line, you have to pass a cultural test

Between these, I think a lot of Danes would fail to get naturalized lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

OrdinaryValuable9705 at 2024-03-25 12:43:57+00:00 ID: kwh80jk


They do. The yearly citizenship test is very common for many danes to fail. Best I have seen is when a bunch of DF politicians took it, and a bit more than half failed it - was amazing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Spurlock33 at 2024-03-25 13:44:04+00:00 ID: kwhgjb3


If we expose foreignes to tests like these to get citizenship, we should kinda set the same expectations of current citizens! Like, fail this test and you don't get a passport, the right to vote, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

CountNo4923 at 2024-03-25 13:46:34+00:00 ID: kwhgx3s


or maybe its just a test to see if you can actually care to give a shit about Denmark enough to spend ½ hour reading a pamphlet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Spurlock33 at 2024-03-25 13:48:26+00:00 ID: kwhh7o7


Then ordinary citizens would have no issue parsing it either? If you don't give a shit, don't get rights.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

CountNo4923 at 2024-03-25 13:50:10+00:00 ID: kwhhhb7


if its about voting rights it should be a proper test, not read a pamphlet and put down 30 x

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Spurlock33 at 2024-03-25 13:59:12+00:00 ID: kwhiwrq


The issue with that kind of process will always be, who gets to decide the questions and how difficult the questions should be.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if most would fail to get most basic questions about our political system right.

I remember the numbers we got presented during the political behavioral classes on PoliSci were fairly depressing when you asked respondent what parties were in goverment, who the current state minister was, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Tumleren at 2024-03-25 15:28:09+00:00 ID: kwhxtzi


Devils advocate: it's not like they're expected to just know the answers in the test, there's reading material specifically to prepare for it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

OrdinaryValuable9705 at 2024-03-25 15:53:45+00:00 ID: kwi2dpe


A LOT of it is acutally common knowledge or things you learn in 9-10 klasse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Ricobe at 2024-03-26 06:13:29+00:00 ID: kwlu5i1


I would argue that some of the stuff you need to read for is pointless. It should be a test about how our society works, cultural norms and such. Things that are relevant to our society

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

WhatEver069 at 2024-03-25 12:58:35+00:00 ID: kwh9yqj


I've lived in Denmark my entire life, but i'm Dutch- and because i've been out of work due to my mental health, i'll have to wait another 10 years (assuming i dont have a relapse), before i'll be able to start the process. It fucking sucks, i didnt have the money for the process when i turned 18, so now i'll have to wait until i'm atleast 33 🥲

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Icy_Dragonfruit_3513 at 2024-03-25 16:57:00+00:00 ID: kwie8o0


Det er altså på ingen måde svært at bestå den test - folk hører åbenbart ikke efter i skolen eller gider at få sig basal dannelse + man kan læse op på de emner, testen omhandler. Tog den for et par år siden og den var ret nem at gennemføre.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Ricobe at 2024-03-26 06:11:48+00:00 ID: kwlu0bq


Testen har været ændret flere gange fordi den ofte har indeholdt en masse spørgsmål som de fleste danskere ikke engang ville vide. Der har været mange nyhedsartikler om hvor dårlige de tests har været.

Selvfølgelig kan man læse op på den, men nogle af spørgsmålene er fuldkommen irrelevante. Som for eksempel navnet på en dansk arkitekt og lignende. Den burde handle om vores kultur og hvordan vores samfund fungerer. Ting som er værd at vide generelt

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

DrAzkehmm at 2024-03-25 12:00:56+00:00 ID: kwh2ogy


Don’t forget the fact that the rule can change retroactively at any time, and that no one will tell how or when they have changed, so you’ll have to start over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

KosmonautMikeDexter at 2024-03-25 13:00:32+00:00 ID: kwha8dx


Yes, also that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hillgrove at 2024-03-25 18:42:20+00:00 ID: kwixjld


prove in writing that you can speak danish

Yup.. that definitely sounds like a law our politicians would make :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

KosmonautMikeDexter at 2024-03-25 18:44:52+00:00 ID: kwixzvz


It's called a diploma

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

BobsLakehouse at 2024-03-26 05:22:28+00:00 ID: kwlplft


What is meant is that you need to have passed a Danish language course.