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[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  1. Smoking
  2. Smoking
  3. Smoking

There are already a lot of good answers but I want to highlight this. Chronic tobacco smoke causes increased aging due to multiple mechanisms. Moreover, environmental tobacco exposure from second hand and third hand smoke prior to the 1990s was MASSIVE. So even if you didn’t smoke you got insane daily exposures to the same chemicals.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is also why gen z is looking so old vape.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Nah, stop equating vaping to smoking, it’s a bad-faith argument compared to something we know it’s extremely toxic for a fact.

Studies on vaping have been Inconsistent at best, popcorn lung was related to a flavoring that isn’t used at all now and was only limitedly used before.

So like I get the easy joke, but it is misinformation at this point

Edit: okay, guys stop assuming I’m talking about nicotine. I’m just talking about vaping (vaporizer) vs smoking (combustion). I’m also 31 years old and have never smoked or vaped nicotine myself, it’s not a personal habit of mine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nicotine is nicotine, no matter what you want to believe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean, I was just talking about vaping itself. Also nicotine isn’t a known carcinogen, it’s just a highly addictive chemical.

So yes, nicotine is still nicotine. But tabacco has a lot more in it than just that. So not sure what your point is?

Edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor and reduces blood flow to the skin, likely reducing the availability of nutrients to keep your skin healthy.

Nicotine is nicotine.

Sorry about your habit. It's a hard one to break (been there), but don't ignore known science to justify it in your head just because there isn't a full in depth study.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Um, I have never consumed nicotine knowingly in my life, so there isn’t a personal bias. As I said before this, I never mentioned nicotine that was the other guy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When you say vaping, the default assumption is you're talking about vaping nicotine. Of course nicotine free vapes cannot be equated to smoking lmao. That's on you for not specifying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Slightly educated guess medical opinion here?

As far as risk is concerned:

Smoke>>>vape>nothing.

Vaping will definitely have adverse effects we start cataloging more in 10-30 years. My guess? Likely some form of lung disease (maybe more of a restrictive pattern due to the microparticles in vapes—I could see if being like silicosis or pneumoconioses) and some forms of cancer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No... I hate to tell you this but you are completely wrong. I smoked since i was 18 and even grew up with parents that smoked. I eventually stopped daily smoking when i was 25 years old. I only smoke every once in a while when i get together with my friends. About 2-3 packs a year now if we have to put a number on it.

I am not even 40 yet and I TOTALLY HAVE HAIR, TRUE MAN I DO. I HAVE HAIR, AND LOTS OF IT. "I have the most hair anyone has ever seen" end sentence with index and thumbs together touch each hand in an 'okay sign' pointing at each other

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean you basically don’t smoke then. Most of the effects of smoking are based on pack-years, which is the number of years you’ve smoked a pack per day. So two packs a day for 10 years? 20 pack years.

You have barely any pack years, and you stopped so young that the adverse effects are definitely reversed (10 years of cessation to reverse risk of lung CA/COPD).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I am glad I essentially stopped. (In case you couldn’t tell I was joking with my tone)

Glad you are bringing up some of these points because most people don’t actually realize it ages you.

All real talk aside it’s now time to start rewatching Cowboy Bebop. Hahaa

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Ha ha so true. I thought you were joking but you never know with the internet.