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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Huh, weird that when I was there, there were literally thousands of cars. Probably just hallucinated it

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s not really what car free means.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

For years I've somehow missed this. Cars driving on nearly every street and somehow that "car-free", yeah makes perfect sense.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think it's because the bar is so low, just the ability to choose to walk for everyday commuting, errands, and leisure qualifies as car free. Ie, you can choose to be car free if you want.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh. So you mean the places where you have to be rich to live at a nice place, while everyone else has to live in a tiny apartment in a huge building that's been borderline uninhabitable since the 1970's?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Yes and that's the problem. Walkable areas are currently mostly only affordable for the rich (mainly in the US that is, other countries seem to have no problem designing both rich and poor areas to be walkable). If we built more places to be walkable, less affluent areas might be able to enjoy the benefits as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't understand that at all. I thought car free meant a place, usually a part of town, where cars are not allowed. Those places exist. So to call places nothing like that "car free" seems pretty useless imo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In general usage it means 'the ability to get by with the usual needs of life without needing a car'.

At least as far as I understand it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I suspect you're referring to the use of the term when applied to a person. It makes much more sense to me to say "I'm car free" even if I own a car if I don't drive it regularly. I mean, still not accurate, but makes more sense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I'm referring to how folks use it on social media. 'car free city' very very rarely would mean banning cars from a city.

I'm not saying it is the correct term. At all.

'walkable cities' makes more sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I guess that's one way to understand that word.

Colloquially it is used to refer to the capability of a place that allows its inhabitants to live car free.

Completely banning cars is rarely a demand because it makes no sense. A car is not a problem, hundreds of them are. Especially if they are used and required for everyday mundane tasks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

The only city that I know of that fits that definition is Venice, Italy. I've been able to live car free in SF for 10 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I would make every city Macinac Island if I could, minus the horses.