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French police say ‘we are at war with vermin’ as they threaten revolt over rioting (www.telegraph.co.uk)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As an example of Russia's threat I would like to point out that a lot of the online divisiveness that allowed Trump to win in 2016 just doesn't exist right now, so I imagine it's currently even better in Europe. I think without Russia, a right wing wave isn't possible.

And I'm not sure how you don't think a right wing wave is an existential threat given the conditions of our planet right now, right wing governments will just ~~exasperate~~ exacerbate an already severe problem. (I recognize neoliberalism isn't doing anything to fix the problems but at least it isn't trying to make them worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As an example of Russia’s threat I would like to point out that a lot of the online divisiveness that allowed Trump to win in 2016 just doesn’t exist right now, so I imagine it’s currently even better in Europe. I think without Russia, a right wing wave isn’t possible.

It unfortunately is. The right will also come back in the US after a cycle or so. Russia might be funding some candidates and doing some psyops but they cannot actually make people vote for guys like Trump, or the guys in Poland or Brexit if there is not already a liking for those ideas in US and EU. The toning down in the US in my opinion has more to do with them realizing that they didn't get all that retarded Qanon shit out of Trump and in fact those that believed they could overthrow the US government are going to get some consequences. They feel defeated.

And I’m not sure how you don’t think a right wing wave is an existential threat given the conditions of our planet right now, right wing governments will just exasperate exacerbate an already severe problem. (I recognize neoliberalism isn’t doing anything to fix the problems but at least it isn’t trying to make them worse.

I disagree, neoliberalism is the ideology that causes the global warming problem. Capitalism in general. The rabid racists do not actually care about it but they oppose it because the left supports it. The EU by the way has always been quite neoliberal and certainly does not need Russian influence to put profits above doing everything that needs to be done. After all it's going to cost a lot of money to do it properly.