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Biden promised not to finance fossil fuels. So why is the US backing a huge gas project?
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I see you have taken to heart my advice about making more subtle and "what? it's technically true"-defensible postings, that through the phrasing of their headline still feed the narrative that Biden's bad for the climate even though he pushed through a climate bill that's predicted to reduce US emissions by 40% in the next 6 years, and this particular financing deal is only tangentially related to him. (In the article it says the bank is actually forbidden by law from choosing deals to finance or not based on which industry they relate to.)
Vote for Biden. Seriously. I don't care. Just know what you're voting for.
A 40% reduction in emissions and continued American democracy?
But I mean, the man isn't 100% on what I want. So obviously we have to abstain, causing the end of democracy in this shit system.
A genocide enabler?
Name a reasonable (see: electable) alternative who is
Until you can you should probably stfu because if you think it’s better to see Biden lose to trump over Israel, you’re going to be pretty damn disappointed when trump puts boots on the ground to help Israel.
I'm tired of seeing this worn out point. What exactly would you propose he do that is:
Actually possible for him to do
Not going to make the situation worse
Not something he is already doing
Don't get me wrong, I don't like what Israel is doing either but the US has painted themselves into a corner long before the Biden admin. We can't stop supporting Israel without basically ceding control of the region to Iran, and I guarantee Iran will do shit that will make Israel look like Mr. Rogers by comparison.
I'm not saying there's nothing he could be doing better, but I don't see any productive discussion from the people calling him Genocide Joe.
And all that aside, he's still by far the preferable alternative to Don Cheeto who would likely actually be a genocide enabler.
I mean... I don't see eye to eye with the man on certain things either but... Do you think Trump is going to do better when it comes to fossil fuels? He's going to fight for the environment harder?
nobody is saying you should vote for Trump either
Those are our options. He's saying make sure you know what you're getting into if you vote for Biden...
I expect to have at least four names on my ballot. you can choose from any of them.
Yes a third party candidate winning would be nice. But do you think this election, when we risk having Trump again, is the year to try to divide the votes like that? When, we both know, they're zero chance in hell of a third party candidate winning anytime soon?
Maybe down the road we'll get there. But right now the only actual choices are Trump and Biden. That's just the world we live in. I'm not happy with it either, just like I wasn't happy with having to pick Clinton or Trump.
i didn't vote for biden in 2012 or 2020. i won't be doing it this year. if you're worried about dividing the vote, you should help me decide whether we're voting for jill stein or cornel west.
I'm sorry but you live in a land of delusion. That's just not happening this time. We're not there yet. And you posting slightly snarky comments on a very tiny website like this isn't what's going to turn the tide and turn this into a third party country.
We only have two options. I'm not happy with it either but that's where we are.
I know you're planning on splitting the vote by voting for the conservative instead of a leftist, but I'm not calling you delusional. I'm certainly not lying about how many people are on the ballot.
I never claimed you are lying? Did you respond to the right person?
you lied about how many choices we have.
I've literally acknowledged multiple times that there will be other people on the ballot, I simply am saying over and over in reality it's going to be Biden or Trump.
You claiming that I called you a liar and now you claiming that I'm lying... This isn't you being disingenuous is it? You actually didn't understand what I've been saying all this time did you?
You honestly haven't been following this conversation at all, have you?
that's not what i said. i was contrasting my honesty with your dishonesty.
I'm sorry but this is where I tap out. You're clearly not really following this conversation at all and there's no point continuing it :)
Isn't one of his stated campaign promises literally "drill, drill, drill, baby!"
Thank you! yours is a noble crusade keeping up with these jokers. I’ve also notice there are 3 bad-actor posters, and coincidentally every comment of descent gets their 3 downvotes.
It's a few more than 3 🙂
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