Rugby Union

Table:

Fixtures:

20/09

• Hawke's Bay v Taranaki

21/09

• Northland v North Harbour
• Canterbury v Counties-Manukau
• Wellington v BoP

22/09

• Waikato v Tasman
• Auckland v Southland
• Manawatū v Otago

25/09

• Taranaki v North Harbour

Predictions:

• Hawke's Bay 3+ (going with my heart on this one bc after last weekend, the head says its going to be a struggle)
• North Harbour 14+
• Canterbury 10+
• Wellington 4+
• Tasman 10+
• Auckland 10+
• Otago 5+
• Taranaki 10+

Notes: Including this weekend there are 3 rounds left until the quarter-finals, the current top 4 should make the top 8 though all of them would be hoping for at least 1 win from the next 3 matches. Especially with Tasman & Taranaki having a game in hand, the former should be eyeing up top of the table.

Of course, they're a very good team, and clearly well resourced given the talent they have signed up so anything outside of top 4 would have been a fail. I'd say the top 7 are probably going to make the playoffs and its really just about whether North Harbour or Counties-Manukau squeek in last place.

NH Pro season has already kicked off in France, but for the rest of Europe: it's this Friday. I've got tickets for Edinburgh v Leinster and cannot wait! Champions cup joins the URC on Premier Sports; hooray for me, as I was never going to pay for TNT and Premier Sports

The only people that actually want this are the Welsh. The URC is working well, the prem needs to reign in the spending, and the Champions Cup needs to change to a format people understand. I'd go full knock out like a football cup personally. Sorted, no B&I league needed. But I do suspect NZ and Aus would like to see SA back in Super Rugby

Table:

Fixtures:

13/09:

• Southland v Canterbury

14/09:

• BoP v Taranaki
• North Harbour v Manawatū
• Waikato v Hawke's Bay

15/09:

• Counties-Manukau v Otago
• Tasman v Wellington
• Northland v Auckland

18/09:

• Manawatū v Southland

Predictions: Canterbury 9- BoP 5+ North Harbour 25+ Hawke's Bay 5- Otago 5- Wellington 3+ Auckland 9- Southland 5-

Notes: Well, after the absolute tragedy that befell Hawke's Bay in their Shield defense against the Mako, i'm hoping Wellington will visit Nelson and at least ensure that Tasman only get to celebrate for a week.

That should be a hell of a game with all of the squad ABs being released to play for their provinces and Wellington have been very good so far this season.

Last weekend saw a lot of movement in the bottom half of the table - with lots of drama as well. See if you can find clip of wet-ball-gate from the Battle of the Bridge. Absolute dastardly shithousery robbed North Harbour.

There's plenty of other good matches ahead this weekend too - BoP v Taranaki should settle who's in 4th place, and the mid-week home game for the Turbos could be their only chance of picking up a win this season.

I'm glad the tests are over for this weekend, hopefully the rugby pundits down here will pay some attention to the NPC in their shows. But likely it'll get a passing mention while they spend 45 minutes talking up the Wobblies and then at the end of the season they'll have another moan about how nobody cares about the NPC.

Dodson was bullish and unapologetic; Tom here talks of cash, but I'd prefer to see bridges being built and listening. It's no coincidence the amateur game is finding things tough, and the pathways aren't there. It's no surprise the money blackhole is there when the pro club sides are obvious money pits too. Funnily enough likely due to the pathways not being there so talent is bought in at bigger prices, this includes coaching staff which aren't helping with the community game either.

Re: money. Squeezing the fan for more will quickly start to backfire, any investment in the matchday experience is unlikely to offset its cost in significant terms and amount to little more than a distraction imo. Redeveloping Murrayfield into a 100k stadium the only real possibility of significant earning potential, but what a cost that will bring. Instead costs must come down, and that's the wage bill. I've no idea what a player earns, but between Edinburgh and Glasgow it must be over 100 full time professionals each including sales & marketing, coaching, squad, rehab/medical, scouts, managers, and others I'm sure. Glasgow still leasing their ground annually too, I'll bet GCC ask a pretty penny. And Scotland staff must be phenomenal too.

Alex here with a hard first couple of years

Can NZ get some revenge for last week? Will Australia show up and get their act together?

Table:

Fixtures: Friday 06/09: BoP v Manawatū

Saturday 07/09: Auckland v North Harbour Wellington v Southland Otago v Canterbury Hawke's Bay v Tasman (Ranfurly Shield)

Sunday 08/09: Taranaki v Waikato Counties-Manukau v Northland

Wednesday 11/09: Otago v Wellington

Notes: The biggest game this round is the Ranfurly Shield match on Saturday night, Tasman have never one it as the combined union of Marlborough/Nelson Bays so they'll be up for it; and of course Hawke's Bay will be desperate to keep their winning record. Whoever wins gets both the log o' wood and top of the table.

Other than that, there's a couple of other usually fierce derbies. The Battle of the Bridge on Satuurday, then Otago v Canterbury. Most of the rest of the matches aren't especially exciting.

My Predictions: BoP 24+ North Harbour 9- Wellington 18+ Otago 3- Hawke's Bay 3- Taranaki 9+ Northland 9- Wellington 6+

Both games Saturday 31st

South Africa vs New Zealand - 1700 SAST (UTC+2) - Johannesburg

Argentina vs Australia - 1900 ART (UTC-2) - La Plata

Predictions in the thread very welcomed

Table:

Fixtures:

Friday 30/08:

• Northland v Southland

Saturday 31/08:

• North Harbour v Counties-Manukau
• Taranaki v Otago
• Waikato v Auckland
• Tasman v BoP

Sunday 01/09:

• Canterbury v Wellington
• Manawatū v Hawke's Bay

Wednesday 04/09:

• Waikato v Northland

My Predictions:

• Northland 9+
• North Habour 18+
• Taranaki 6+
• Waikato 9+
• Tasman 6+
• Wellington 9-
• Hawke's Bay 15+
• Northland 6-

1/3 of Round Robin Notes: With Round 3/9 complete now (the fixtures list I refer to has the playoffs as Rounds 10-12 which is a bit random) I figured i'd entertain myself by doing a bit of a stock-take of where we are at.

The defending champs Taranaki are progressing ok with their 1 loss so far coming away to one of the top 4 teams Wellington, are sitting ok, but the draw is a little unkind to them in that their easier games are mostly at home but they still have to play BoP, Tasman & Hawke's Bay on the road.

The comp progresses through quarter-finals, semis to the final so they'll make the playoffs but will need to work hard to get the home advantage they had last year.

The beaten finalists Hawke's Bay are looking quite good especially this week picking up a win away in Canterbury during the storm week. Time will tell though as its all tough games from now, even this Sunday's match against cellar dwellers Manawatū could be banana peel being the 3rd match in 9 days.

Probably the biggest surprise so far is how average Waikato, and how poor Auckland have been. You know you're having a bad season when Southland are ahead of you on the table.

The current top 5 look likely to make the playoffs, of the rest Canterbury will surely make it in though are battling a lot of injuries. The table feels a bit similar to Super Rugby this year. The top 4-5 are clear but places 6-12 are still probably anyone's to take and really only Manawatū & Counties-Manukau are looking completely out of the running.

Crowd wise - its the usual story. The over-saturated Super Rugby markets that struggled to get people to turn up unless it was a big game struggle to get people to show to the NPC. But the provinces that get one or no Super Rugby matches are having pretty good crowds in attendance from what i've seen so far.

This is my editorialising, but I struggle to see how its not yet more Crusaders bias selecting Bower over Numia.

I get that the latter is uncapped and coming off an injury but Numia was probably the form prop in Super Rugby this year and is going to be 3rd choice prop, not playing in either game unless there's an injury anyway.

Bower's only come back from even more serious injury this year and while he's had some tests under his belt i'd say there's just as many question marks over his international game with answers as unanswered questions about Numia.

Mmm, drama in camp before the boks match. TRC R3 to be juicy

Table:

Fixtures:

Friday 23/08:

• Hawke's Bay v Northland (Ranfurly Shield Challenge)

Saturday 24/08:

• Counties-Manukau v Tasman
• Auckland v Canterbury
• Southland v Taranaki

Sunday 25/08:

• Otago v BoP
• Wellington v Manawatū
• North Harbour v Waikato

Wednesday 28/08:

• Canterbury v Hawke's Bay

My Predictions:

• Hawkes-Bay 6+ (I'm on call this week so won't be at McLean Park :( )
• Tasman 18+
• Auckland 6-
• Taranaki 6+
• BoP 6+
• Wellington 27+
• North Harbour 6+
• Canterbury 10-

Lions hype begins! The currently longest serving fly-halves in the Lions nations pairing up? Who doesn't want to see that?

Also, an expansion to 24 teams. 6 pools of 4, top 2 go forward automatically, next 4 highest winners, with a knock out of 16 to look forward to too

• Australia v South Africa in Perth
• New Zealand v Argentina in Auckland

Table:

Fixtures:

Friday 16/08:

• Otago v Auckland

Saturday 17/08:

• Northland v Manawatū
• Tasman v Canterbury
• Hawke's Bay v Southland (Ranfurly Shield Challenge)

Sunday 18/08:

• BoP v North Harbour
• Wellington v Taranaki
• Counties-Manukau v Waikato

My Predictions:

• Auckland 13+
• Northland 21+
• Tasman 6-
• Hawkes-Bay 6+ (Hoping to make it to McLean Park for this one)
• BoP 13+
• Taranaki 6-
• Waikato 13-

Seeing as I care more about the NPC than any other Rugby I feel like I ought to start a thread for this too, even though i'm the only person here that probably has any interest :)

Round 1 Fixtures:

• Taranaki v Counties-Manukau
• Auckland v Wellington
• Canterbury v Northland
• Southland v Otago
• Waikato v Bay of Plenty
• North Harbour v Hawkes Bay
• Manawatū v Tasman
• Bay of Plenty v Counties-Manukau*

*Due to the compressed nature of the competition every team has what's called a storm week where they end up playing 3 times in about 10 days which is why this match is marked as the 2nd game in round 1 for these two teams

• Australia v South Africa in Brisbane
• New Zealand v Argentina in Wellington

But not Allianz Twickenham. Just another Allianz stadium. I hope they got a big paycheck for that

This could have major repercussions for the game as we know it. The RFU has already reduced the amount of contact allowed in the grassroots of the game. Will the product we all love survive a legal tsunami if this ends in a court ruling?

I always wonder if you could get players to sign away their rights to sue but I'm pretty certain that would not be legally enforceable, alongside being totally exploitative.

Forgetting that Scotland were playing yesterday due to the Olympics but 4 from 4 in their Americas tour will beg the question "why not Argentina?" once again. With NZ choosing to play the softer touch England and Wales in November, is everyone running scared from the mighty Scots? Well done to the team anyhow, and fantastic to see dooey with the try record

Mens medals today! Kicking off 1:30 BST, with the semis at 2:30 & 3:00 boks v the french, and fijians vs ozzies. Ceremony bit of a miss last night imo, but I was drinking. Quarters was amazing Thursday night, hopefully a fantastic spectacle again today

Bit niche I thought when I saw this. So of course I have to share it with a niche community :)

Day 2 of the mens competition and what a great showcase yesterday was. Loads of offloads, skip passes, individual skills, and team wonder tries on show and a fantastic crowd. Personally a game every 30 minutes is too bloody slow to watch live, and the highlights were slow, but good for du biere if you were in the stadium I'm sure. Actually last time I was in SdF I couldn't buy a beer... Sarkozy!

Anyway, today we venture into knock out territory, so enjoy folks!