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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don’t think that’s quite right, because there’s no instruction associated with spreading lies about someone. You don’t have to say “you should attack this person based on this [random lie]” to be guilty of libel. The lie itself causes the bad consequences that now make you guilty.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (16 children)

“As a German, I find myself groaning when I see this discussion come up. Conspiracy theorists are not rational. If fascists could be swayed by facts and reason, they would not believe what even the most minor bit of fact checking would disprove. Allowing them to spew their nonsense freely or join a coalition won't disabuse them of their notions; it will help them seek and build echo-chambers and become further radicalized.We see the echo chamber effect on every online platform. Whether or not the holocaust happened, for example, is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. You're entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts. Making up your own facts is called lying. And when your lies are so malicious and harmful that they actually pose a threat to other people or the nation itself, then yes, that should absolutely be punishable. It's no different than slander or libel.

“What value is there to allowing holocaust denial? Serious question. And I don't mean appealing to the slippery slope of how it leads to other worse prohibitions. There's a lot of arguing for Free Speech for its own sake - that Free Speech is the highest virtue in and of itself that must never, ever be compromised, for any reason, and that this should be self-evident. But I ask, what's the harm in not allowing holocaust denial, specifically? What is the benefit in allowing it? There is none. Nothing good will ever come out of someone spewing holocaust denial. Ever. You won't get a thoughtful debate beneficial to both parties. They're wrong, simple as that. The "best" outcome you'll get out of it is that you can convince a denier or someone on the fence that they're wrong. Great. The best outcome involves suppressing it. There are, however, a hell of a lot potentially bad consequences in that their stupidity can infect others and shift the Overton window their way.

“The reason that the majority of modern Germans look at the Nazi flag and feel nothing but revulsion whereas a sizable portion of US southerners actually fly the confederate flag and defend it (Heritage, not hate, or It was about states' rights, not slavery, or Slaves weren't treated so bad) is that Germans were forbidden from telling each other comforting lies about their past."

— quote I stole from unknown redditor

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You’re obviously pro Israel which is why you’re fighting to put Trump in office. Why not admit it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Maybe the pro-Palestine protestors are Israeli agitators trying to tank whatever little political opposition America can muster to stop the genocide. Either that, or these are the dumbest most ineffective protestors of all time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Regardless, the moral fact is that any man (or parent) willing to participate in this exchange of services should immediately become an organ donor.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Yes, it’s so suspicious that to cover the crimes of a psychopath with a media empire would take several hours of documentary evidence.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Mr. Beast’s suppurating carcass should be fired into the sun.

EDIT: along with anyone who downvoted this comment. Sorry, pacifists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depends on whether you’re supporting the right side (if there is one) and on the consequences of arming a particular group of insurgents.

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