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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"That’s what one real-estate agent claims in a video that went viral on the social-media platform TikTok"

Hardly a compelling source.

" he’s suggesting that companies such as Zillow are using the data they glean from people’s perusal of home listings on their sites to make decisions about which houses to buy as iBuyers."

Based on what exactly? Zillow used publicly available information about houses, just like everyone else does. Zillow traffic patterns had nothing to do with it and really wouldn't even be useful for that. Buying decisions were based on home value and forecasted ability to resell, not derived interest based on page views.

"Gotcher later argues that the company will buy 30 homes at one price, and then purchase a 31st home at a higher price. “What that just did is create a new comp,”"

False. Zillow literally excluded houses that it bought from its comps to avoid that bias. I know because I wrote that code.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Zillow over payed for houses, then couldn't sell them as quickly as expected because the COVID housing market took a down turn, and so they sold them at a loss, lost millions of dollars, and closed the house buying business. They also made plenty of low offers or under-payed for houses at times. They were trying to break even on home value on the hole, but couldn't reign in the wild swings of gains and losses. Their entire business model was based on the seller fees, not on the house value.

In any case, they closed that business in 2021, and has since sold the rest of their inventory.

I don't see how that would have a lasting effect on housing prices though. I'd attribute it more to a housing shortage due to people buying up real estate, and keeping it as rentals. Even when operating, Zillow aimed to resell houses within 3 months, not hold on to them as investments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Based on the actual Zillow report, it's just based on home values across the board in different regions. So, these are averages. Of course, if you make more improvements and stuff, your result would vary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You can just click through to the actual Zillow report instead of Yahoo's article about it: https://www.zillow.com/research/years-to-profit-33215/

They discuss the analysis right there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

How did Zillow do this?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Define "engineer" in a way that accurately describes what you think is an "engineer" while simultaneously excluding software engineers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I don't think I will. I asked you a direct question, if you will retract your statement of "no one can convince me" and you ignored the question. You can't even acknowledge the one thing that I've been calling you out on after I've repeatedly demonstrated the problem to you.

I don't think you will engage honestly so I have no interest in continuing a conversation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"you can't convince me" doesn't sound like an invitation to debate. It sounds like a warning that debating that topic with you would be a waste of time because you won't listen anyway.

I can provide my justification for believing that voting for a 3rd party is a waste of a vote. Are you actually willing to be convinced if a sufficient argument is presented? I.e. are you retracting your "you can't convince me" statement? If not, I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince the unconvinceable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You are keeping yourself from growing as a person because you would rather block your ears than consider another person's perspective.

If you care about making good decisions, you should want to hear other perspectives and make (or revise) your decisions with as much information as possible. Instead, you've made up your mind with a bit of information, and refuse to hear more. Science, for example, adjust it's views based on what is observed. You are refusing to observe so that your current believe can be preserved.

It's not even about wanting to "vote D", I don't really care about that. It's about the intellectual dishonesty and laziness of being unwilling to ever change your mind about something to the extent that you push away anything that might make you stop being so lazy and dishonest.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You know you are being closed minded and irrational when you say "no one is going to convince me of ____".

Way to keep yourself from growing as a person and learning new things!

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