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Could perhaps a charitable interpretation of the song be that there are some people on welfare who could work but choose not to (sloth) and choose to eat excessively when they could choose otherwise (gluttony), and that the musician is complaining about these specific people, and not people who may simply be overweight due to poisoning or unemployed due to bad luck?

Rich Men North of Richmond by Oliver Anthony (Slight Language Warning) in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes, feeding those in need is the clear teaching; no, this is not necessarily through welfare and taxation

Rich Men North of Richmond by Oliver Anthony (Slight Language Warning) in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, this isn't Jesus being "pro-taxes" but for prudence: He was saying if people are going to force you to pay taxes, well what are you going to do? If you don't pay that makes you a criminal, so just to pay it to avoid trouble

Rich Men North of Richmond by Oliver Anthony (Slight Language Warning) in c/[email protected]

[+] [email protected] -8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Ok, and what we're saying is in none of those passages is Jesus saying to force people to hand over money using the government so that people can collect it in welfare; the difference between a nonprofit or giving someone who is homeless on the street $20, versus a government agency fining someone and forcing them to be taxed for whatever purpose the government may see fit

However, that is not to say Christians may not advocate for such a view (for government welfare), I would simply state it is not the "Christian position" that Jesus is positively requiring something like government welfare to exist

superfluous wealth (beyond one's needs) is morally the possession of the poor, in the theological tradition (although not one that is much talked about?) - hence you might advocate for wealthy people to give charitably under pain of present or future punishment by God (unless they feel they should retain such funds for some reason - some may need less than others, and some wealth is capital, like if a person owns a boat they can't break up the boat to feed people)

Care for the poor is a positive virtue, but welfare is simply forcing taxpayers to pay, and allows people to indiscriminately collect; it's not particularly moral or immoral, it's kind of amoral in a way (when abused, immoral?)

Thank you for this conversation, I think it is an important one to continue (I may be out for a bit, I could try to further elaborate on different passages if requested. Whether government or corporations or individuals are in charge of doing certain things, I do agree we should care for the poor for sure and would enjoy seeing more discussion of how to meet the needs of those in most need when possible)

Rich Men North of Richmond by Oliver Anthony (Slight Language Warning) in c/[email protected]

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Rich Men North of Richmond by Oliver Anthony (Slight Language Warning) (yewtu.be)

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Lyrics:

https://genius.com/Oliver-anthony-rich-men-north-of-richmond-lyrics

[Verse 1] I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day Overtime hours for bulls*** pay So I can sit out here and waste my life away Drag back home and drown my troubles away

[Pre-Chorus] It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to For people like me and people like you Wish I could just wake up and it not be true But it is, oh, it is

[Chorus] Livin' in the new world With an old soul These rich men north of Richmond Lord knows they all just wanna have total control Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do And they don't think you know, but I know that you do 'Cause your dollar ain't s*** and it's taxed to no end 'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

[Verse 2] I wish politicians would look out for miners And not just minors on an island somewhere Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat And the obese milkin' welfare

[Verse 3] Well, God, if you're five-foot-three and you're three-hundred pounds Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground 'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

[Pre-Chorus] Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to For people like me and people like you Wish I could just wake up and it not be true But it is, oh, it is

[Chorus] Livin' in the new world With an old soul These rich men north of Richmond Lord knows they all just wanna have total control Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do And they don't think you know, but I know that you do 'Cause your dollar ain't s*** and it's taxed to no end 'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

[Outro] I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day Overtime hours for bulls*** pay

Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.' in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

> I don't want to work at this company anymore so I quit, I just don't feel like working here anymore

Seems ok for the employee to quit "at will" so why not for the employer?

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Thematic Book Series: How to Build a Low-tech Internet? | Low Tech Magazine (lemmy.world)

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(posted for discussion, not necessarily in agreement with author)

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2023/08/thematic-books-series/

Links to articles used in book (not linked on the site, presumably this is the book's contents):

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Why we need a speed limit for the internet

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2015/10/why-we-need-a-speed-limit-for-the-internet/

Email in the 18th century: the optical telegraph

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2007/12/email-in-the-18.html

How to build a low-tech internet?

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2015/10/how-to-build-a-low-tech-internet

How to build a low-tech website?

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2018/09/how-to-build-a-low-tech-website/

How sustainable is a solar powered website?

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2020/01/how-sustainable-is-a-solar-powered-website.html

How and why I stopped buying laptops

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2020/12/how-and-why-i-stopped-buying-new-laptops

Why the office needs a typewriter revolution

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2016/11/why-the-office-needs-a-typewriter-revolution.html

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Thematic Book Series: How to Build a Low-tech Internet? | Low Tech Magazine (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

0 comments fedilink

(posted for discussion, not necessarily in agreement with author)

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2023/08/thematic-books-series/

Links to articles used in book (not linked on the site, presumably this is the book's contents):

...

Why we need a speed limit for the internet

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2015/10/why-we-need-a-speed-limit-for-the-internet/

Email in the 18th century: the optical telegraph

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2007/12/email-in-the-18.html

How to build a low-tech internet?

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2015/10/how-to-build-a-low-tech-internet

How to build a low-tech website?

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2018/09/how-to-build-a-low-tech-website/

How sustainable is a solar powered website?

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2020/01/how-sustainable-is-a-solar-powered-website.html

How and why I stopped buying laptops

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2020/12/how-and-why-i-stopped-buying-new-laptops

Why the office needs a typewriter revolution

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2016/11/why-the-office-needs-a-typewriter-revolution.html

Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.' in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's sincere, I don't think people are thinking through what they're asking for

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"Never Meant" Piano Version | American Football (yewtu.be)

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"Never Meant" Piano Version | American Football (yewtu.be)

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Economics: The Family Wage (infogalactic.com)

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A family wage is a wage that is sufficient to raise a family. This contrasts with a living wage, which is generally taken to mean a wage sufficient for a single individual to live on, but not necessarily sufficient to also support a family. As a stronger form of living wage, a family wage is likewise advocated by proponents of social justice. Family wage campaign was aiming to maintain the traditional family structure, as a concept connecting economics and family structure it is one of the examples of how economic structure of family, which is a subject of the field family economics, affects overall economy beyond the family.

The term "family wage jobs" has occasional contemporary use in American political rhetoric and is most associated with Catholic intellectuals, in the Catholic social teaching tradition

The debate about "living wages" vs. minimum wages ignores structuring jobs for the needs of the family and (traditionally male) breadwinners

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Economics: The Family Wage (infogalactic.com)

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3624234

A family wage is a wage that is sufficient to raise a family. This contrasts with a living wage, which is generally taken to mean a wage sufficient for a single individual to live on, but not necessarily sufficient to also support a family. As a stronger form of living wage, a family wage is likewise advocated by proponents of social justice. Family wage campaign was aiming to maintain the traditional family structure, as a concept connecting economics and family structure it is one of the examples of how economic structure of family, which is a subject of the field family economics, affects overall economy beyond the family.

The term "family wage jobs" has occasional contemporary use in American political rhetoric and is most associated with Catholic intellectuals, in the Catholic social teaching tradition

The debate about "living wages" vs. minimum wages ignores structuring jobs for the needs of the family and (traditionally male) breadwinners