A lot of people have a problem with the first season’s tone (which is no darker than DS9 so I don’t see the big deal) but the writing really was extremely solid. At least until the end when they decided to rush through wrapping up the Klingon war in two episodes because they spent so much time in the mirror universe.

I think you’re forgetting TOS! Hit the ground running with two very solid seasons, then fell off a bit for the third. Kind of reverses the usual pattern.

I’ve never watched Rick And Morty, but I find the constant reference humour to be very grating. I’ve come to appreciate the characters but also can’t get excited about it like most of the other series. I’d definitely rate it in the bottom half of Trek shows.

You absolutely should. I'm too far gone to choose a favourite, but I think there's a strong argument that DS9 is still the best series Trek has had.

Glad you enjoyed it, but to me it felt exceptionally cynical, even more so than other marketing inspired crossovers. The particular way the crew became so keen about wrestling for this one episode was so ingenuine.

Combs is always nice to see, of course.

And I’ve never personally seen anyone called a racist for criticizing a show’s writing quality. In fact, there are plenty of people in this thread expressing distaste for Discovery who don’t seem to be getting much flack for it at all.

For my part, while Discovery had its faults, I’d favour its writing over Enterprise’s any day of the week. Seems like a lot of fans have really warmed up to Enterprise in the past few years, but in my day it was almost universally derided, and every time I’ve tried to give it a rewatch it’s only reinforced that impression.

I loved Discovery, but my god those turbolift scenes, whose bright ideas were those? Bloody idiotic!

In a wordplay way, sure, but he consistently presents male. In contrast to the character who is literally referred to as “the female changeling”.

It wasn’t a high point for the franchise, that’s for sure.

Nah, no one would call the Michael Bay Transformers movies “woke”. We all know it’s about displaying progressive values.

If you want to say something’s badly written, you can just say that, and avoid aligning yourself with bigots who flip their lid over a black little mermaid.

Season 2 you have him chummy with a cold blooded murderer who faced no consequences.

Hey, Picard had already been chummy with Worf for years on TNG.

In 1997 adding a sexy Borg crew member to Voyager reeked of desperation. But the writers actually gave a shit and whoever was in charge of casting took the time to find someone who could actually act, so in the end Seven Of Nine became one of the best things to come out of Voyager (nevermind the cringe worthy marketing and costume).

End of the day, I don't care about the mental state of the exec signing off on an idea, because even a bad one can turn out good with the right talent. And I don't see why Star Trek as a teen drama is a bad idea. Star Trek can work with all sorts of genres, and we've still got SNW holding down the fort as the old school exploration series.