smegforbrains

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Being against nuclear power does not make me a fossil fuel proponent. We should aim for 100% renewables. Also nuclear power very much hurt tens of thousands of people by causing cancer in the aftermath of the Chernobyl accident.

https://blog.ucsusa.org/lisbeth-gronlund/how-many-cancers-did-chernobyl-really-cause-updated/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

If you're not interested in discussing the issue at hand that's okay.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

It's called interest. I made clear on multiple occasions that being against nuclear power does not make me a proponent of fossil fuel power production. I think we have to get rid of fossil fuel power production as well as nuclear power production.

Please refrain from personal attacks and try to discuss using credible sources and arguments. Hers a primer on discussion skills: https://www.student.unsw.edu.au/discussion-skills

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't know. I can also ask: How much damage could have been avoided if Chernobyl and Fukushima would have not been built. But IMHO this makes no sense since these hypothetical scenarios are not the topic of this discussion.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

No argument offered here. Ad hominem fallacy again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't think we should behave as if we are school kids. I think we should behave like grown ups and respect each other, while discussing these matters.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's a social issue. There is no acceptance in the populace and politicians have only reacted to that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

The hydrogen is produced by employing renewables during times of overproduction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Germany is already at 52% renewables. So there's a lot of wind and solar power plants. Hydrogen plants already exist. You only have to switch their power supply from fossil fuels to renewables and you get green hydrogen. It's entirely feasible.

Source: https://www.siemens-energy.com/global/en/home/products-services/product/hydrogen-power-plants.html

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

It's not a question of either using coal or nuclear power in Germany. The idea is to phase out coal power production by 2038 and replaced them by building 40 green hydrogen plants in order to be climate neutral by 2045 with renewables, which already are 52% of the German mix and the before mentioned green hydrogen plants.

Here's a Google translation of a source about the energy transition in Germany:

https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Energiewende?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Fission waste is stored in pools and dry casks and never hurts anybody during normal operation.

Right. During normal operation the risks are minute, but what about threat scenarios outside of normal operation? Starting on page 112 here's a list of possible threat scenarios as compiled by the Fraunhofer institute: https://www.isi.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/isi/dokumente/ccv/2013/ETTIS_Deliverable_4_4_Catalogue%20of%20Threat%20Scenarios.pdf

Coal waste is belched into the atmosphere 24/7 and contains many bad substances aside from the radioactive ones.

That's also true. But again, being in opposition of using nuclear power plants as long as there is no long term storage facility, does not mean I'm a coal proponent. Coal will be phased out in 2038 and the idea is to build 40 green hydrogen power plants, to enable the transition. There will be no new coal power plants build in Germany according to the current plan.

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