smayonak

The only person who did anything helpful got sent to jail (reality winner)

They kept the war on drugs going and started smuggling drugs into black neighborhoods to fund anti democratic despots overseas

Kennedy would end up firing Allan Dulles because he had tricked Kennedy into Bay of Pigs. These guys had a reputation for misleading presidents.

He probably didn't know. Bush shuffled Cheney off to the margins and had Rummy resign in 2006 when he realized that he had been manipulated. From then on he leaned heavily on Condoleeza Rice. But the main thing is that the Dulles brothers were long gone.

We have to distinguish between the Dulles Brothers and Eisenhower. The brothers were two of the biggest gangsters to ever step foot in DC. Because they were allowed to run operations without the knowledge of the president and they lied and manipulated presidents is not completely clear what Eisenhower knew.

You are completely right. There's an entire ecosystem of right wing propaganda channels out there but most people get their news from their friends. It's the key phenomenon behind influencer culture. And that's how most of the damage is done.

If someone has one friend who is considered knowledgeable on current affairs and that one friend watches Fox, chances are that none of his associates will have an accurate understanding of any given topic. And that's by design. The kind of tripe spread on fox news is inflammatory and salacious. The sort of noxious trash you'd share with friends in private conversation.

I realize this is what TikTok and facebook maximize: The friend effect. People learn from their friends. The kind of lies spread by right wing networks is magnified by social media and Russian bot farms.

We have to take the election fraud seriously. The only reason a felon like trump, facing jailtime, would take it easy is if he knew he was guaranteed the presidency in November. Either he got assurances from the Supreme Court or he knows something we dont.

But we're there any better platforms that people were using? The problem was that all the alternatives were doing next tot nothing for countering disinformation. Twitter was the best of a bad situation.

Most conservatives and Maga radical insurrectionists were the victims of a disinformation campaign and malicious profiteering.

Fox News receives a large chunk of its advertising revenue from supplement companies. These same companies wanted to foster vaccine and mask skepticism in order to sell more oil of oregano and "natural" cures.

Fox News must be held financially liable for the countless lives that it has destroyed.

When narcissists become triggered they have a fight or flight response. Trump is having that same response every day of his life. He was having it during the coup, he was having it when he was raping, he was having it when he got convicted. The observation that Trump is mentally crumbling is true. But it's something that he does daily.

Just think how contorted someone's thinking must be I'm order to derive their self worth from a poll.

I think you're right and that I've horribly misunderstood how this data is collected and used. According to their yearly report, mozilla's advertising revenue is explicitly not drawn from user data and is only related to tiles and default search engine sponsorships. The fact that they are not selling this information is heartening and it inspires confidence that they have not flipped on the ad money spigot.

I appreciate your informed response but no system other than advertising-abstinence is fool proof.

Im saying this as a supporter. My browser of choice is firefox and I send them money regularly. And I understand their need to generate more revenue. But there has never been a company who has sold customer data discretely. My understanding is that every piece of data that's sold can be de anonymized when combined with other data sets. And the data is horsetraded until it gets into some very marginal actors' hands.

Mozilla's need for money is largely driven by massive mismanagement. It should have been fully funded in perpetuity through establishing a foundation that operates off interest payments but they decided to try and build a headquarters in Mountainview. They also operate offices in some of the most expensive cities in the world. They have made expensive software aquisitions. These are not necessary and have only whetted mozilla's thirst for other revenue sources. It's guaranteed that they will look for more customer data to sell because that's the path of least resistance.

I wish them luck but I also wish they'd not chase advertising money.