opelit

joined 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I mean, thanks to that you know that's its refresh. So it's fucking helpful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Such 3D cache also bring real issues with cooling and laptops doesn't do that one efficiently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I mean, comparing entry level gaming laptop to premium non-gaming laptop price and performance is WTF?

Cheap non-gaming laptop with top tier APU like 5800H/6800HS going to be 600/800$. Sure it will still be weaker than an laptop with GPU but price is not reason. Amd or Intel simply doesn't do chips with powerfull iGPU included cuz it doesn't make sense. Too little memory bandwidth and monolitic dies cost way more the bigger they are.

People could think, so why don't they use GDDr6 like consoles. Well, cuz GDDr6 provide a lot of bandwidth but has much worse latency. Which makes CPU part slower.

Ultimate move would be if they used 64bit (aka single channel) LP/DDR5 and then put also GDDr6 memory controller for GPU. No need to unify memory (still not here, shared memory is different).

That would make best of worlds. Tho it would work only on laptops where everything is soldered down. On PCs it would be hell, or mobo would include GDDr6 memory soldered down even if no chips that would use it was used, which doesn't make sense. And could make it even worse at some point (there would be probably ones with 4/8GB ggdr6 or without any) which is hell for customers while buying mobos

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All APUs so far been Mobile chips ported to desktop socket. These chips doesn't have 3Dcache as cuz they have to support them -- must have connectors that enable them to be linked. So no, there is not such for now. Yes, they can do one in the future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

People... Instead hyping them so 3 players will be on market which usually means lower prices...