noita

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Dude, it's literally how capitalism is built. Where do you think we get our cheap oil, chocolates, clothes, iphones, rare earth minerals etc from? The wealth of the west is built upon the suffering of the third world. And as I said in my previous comment, it doesn't look like things will change anytime soon.

You're doing the same thing again, conflating the way things are, with the way things have to be. I don't think it should be this way, I'm just acknowledging how the world currently looks.

People who fall into right wing views are the ones who believe the world should be unfair and you should push other people down. I think the world can and should be better but closing your eyes and pretending the horrors of capitalism doesn't exist is just stupid and wont help you build a better world.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You seem to be making an idealistic argument (ie, lmao what are you saying, of people don't have to suffer, we have the technology to stop that) whereas the person you're responding to is making a descriptive claim about how the world currently is.

I agree completely, people don't have to suffer. But that's what the current world is built on. The suffering of the poor, the minorities, the illegal immigrants, visa slaves, sweatshop workers etc. Just because things doesn't have to be this way doesn't change the fact that things are this way and it doesn't look like anything is going to change anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Doesn't seem that likely too me. I know there's been multiple European countries doing small scale experiments with it but is there anything similar going on in the US?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This assumes that there's an infinite supply of well paying jobs that are freely accessible to everyone, but that's not how reality works. If the options are "work for shit pay" or "don't work at all and starve" then people will choose the shit job. It's why market economies aim for a few percents unemployment(and why places like the US really don't want to forgive student debt) because people need to be desperate for whatever job they can get to keep wages low.

A much better way to solve it is just to legislate that if you work a fulltime job you have to be paid a livable wage.