lennybird

Yes or no, would it be good for Harris if George W Bush endorsed Harris or spoke at the convention?

At least the cat is out of the bag on the attempted fuckery and so watchdogs are watching closely. And at least Trump isn't in the White House with a crooked Attorney General and Chief of Staff mounting a pressure campaign. And at least many key states have Democratic state governments including key State Secretaries.

So my hope is there are diminished returns on an already failed attempted coup.

I was going to say. Before I even saw who that quote was from, I thought, "boy, this sure sounds like a quote from a Clinton Strategist"

Lo and behold...

More antiquated third-way bullshit.

I also heard the same fucking shit from David Brooks on the PBS panel yesterday. That guy needs to get his head out of his ass, for he's still catching up as to the how and why Trump hijacked his own party and why his milquetoast both sideism led to Trump in the first place. I really wish PBS would find a better pundit.

Now the only thing to do is make the best of the circumstances. Thankfully she avoided a life sentence.

• Spend your time in prison reading everything you can get your hands on, Edmond Dantes-style.
• Earn your law degree or something else essentially before you leave prison.
• Write an autobiographical book; publish.
• Profit.

A nation given by an occupying colonial empire to those targeted by the Holocaust, who then displace local indigenous population only to establish a far-right nazi-like nationalist government who commits a Holocaust of their own against the others. They truly became what they hated.

So much for Never Again.

How many October 7ths has Israel now committed against the civilians of Gaza, 40?

I'm hard-pressed to believe that Biden and Harris actively support genociding Gazans. They are not psychopaths like Trump.

I believe the issue is far more complex than most give credit, and if it were that simple, I'm pretty sure Biden and Harris would rather not be associated in any capacity to the actions of Bibi in Gaza. But naturally, they have more granular internal polling that probably details subsets of these populations and in critical states that they need to be wary of.

Moreover AIPAC is one of the strongest lobbyists in Washington. You said yourself have powerful lobbying is. You saw how much money was poured into tiny primaries just to get rid of Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman to successfully derail their campaign, right?

Israel has both an online misinformation troll farm akin to Russia's IRA troll farm. There's a fine line to play to keep Israel from deploying all its resources to derail the Harris reelection effort.

I agree that most of the "slight" resistance to Israel as of late has largely been ineffective. I just think that's a product of how critical this election is unfortunately and truly don't believe that Biden and Harris want anything to do with being indirectly or directly linked to Netanyahu's actions if they weren't caught between a rock and a hard place in this election. Which is why I am trying to find common-ground with those most vocal advocates for Palestinians in saying that you need to join me in going to the lion's den of places like r/IsraelPalestine subreddits and arguing with any pro-Israeli on Facebook and so forth until one-by-one we influence the polls, because if it was a complete slam-dunk, then there would be no choice but for the administration to respond. After all, no administration is going to go against something that has 90%+ consensus in an election year. I mean shit, I got banned form r/news and r/worldnews for spreading the word on Israeli atrocities before it became a bit more mainstream on reddit. Nevertheless my voice among many others can make a difference. But I focused on influencing my fellow Americans instead of shooting myself in the foot by possibly undermining the election success of the only administration who may actually change — for you and I both know certain as shit that Trump will not change.

Well for me that begs the question — has there been a lack of change in Democratic lines and action? Hear me out:

• In the week following October 7th, Biden literally went to Bibi and hugged him on the tarmac, said they're lockstep with Israel: "The United States has Israel's back. We're with Israel. Let's make no mistake."
• The administration went from vetoing in the UN dropping their and pushing aid into Gaza.
• Biden held up shipment of bombs to Israel following his line in the sand on invading Rafah.
• The administration went from giving Israel carte blanche on how they responded to Hamas, to now saying they needed to practice restraint and take effort to minimize casualties.
• Behind the scenes there are clear reports that Biden is extremely pissed off at Netanyahu.
• Meanwhile Harris made some of the most publicly-vocal comments on Bibi and Israel following her own meeting with Netanyahu, demanding that Israel follow through with the ceasefire.

These may sound like small things, but this is a monumental shift in US-Israeli diplomacy that we haven't seen in decades. This of course follows a reflection of the polls I noted earlier.

To me this all signals that following the election and scrutinizing different political groups (namely weighing Muslim communities in the mid-west versus the 7 million Jewish-Americans, some of whom in key battleground states like Pennsylvania and more sympathetic to Israel), then I think it's likely a Harris administration would immediately change its tune in regard to Israel. Hence why the likes of Netanyahu (and Putin) are doing everything they can to get Trump elected.

You make my point.

• Democracy is a reflection of the will of the people.
• Most leaders don't lead from ahead, but rather lead from behind where the current polling is — especially true in an election year. Too much risk otherwise.
• So the BEST way to change policy direction is to change where the electorate is at.
• Otherwise, you again make my point: Protest all you want, it will do nothing until public position changes.
• So spend your time not arguing with me who fucking sympathizes with Palestinians and detests Netanyahu and also stop putting the cart before the horse and divert your attention to American Pro-Israeli crowds who DO support what Israel is doing and actually do the hard work of convincing THEM and the undecided. This is so obviously step fucking number one.
• By the way, Sympathy != Expressing approval for what Israel is doing in Gaza, necessarily, or which there has been change. If you don't believe me, here's another Gallup source from March.
• Your source is woefully out of date, as well. That link is from March (itself out of date), but the data is from February...

lol man, these strawmen are simply out of hand if not bad faith. I really don't know if you have the prerequisite reading comprehension to engage with.

Please come back when you can actually respond, with substance, to the points I've made instead of petty deflections. Thank you.

You can have 'em!

The reality is Putin is attempting two genocides, one in Ukraine and one in Russia. He has purged undesireables from liberals and independent media to the LGBTQ+ community, ethnic minorities, political opposition, boisterous oligarchs, prisoners, and so forth... He and his Rasputin, Aleksandr Dugin, believe they can create a stronger Russia by making it a more pure one. But good luck with that lol.

Putin be like, "Watch me speed-run becoming North Korea, stuck in the past and global pariah."

Golly, it must be nice to just kill any number of civilians you want, only to justify without evidence or accountability by saying there was a terrorist nearby. /s

It's like police showing up to a bank heist full of hostages and they just go, "so anyway, we decided to place demo charges on the entire building!"

Yeah and just look at the type of people Biden's administration has compared to the complete clowns in Trump's administration.

His broader cabinet is really who is keeping the country going. Similarly with Trump, his cabinet is what did much of the damage to this country.