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An economic system that is predicated on perpetual growth and resource extraction will eventually collapse as there is no more growth or resources to extract. Everyone is tapped out and there is nothing more you can squeeze. So it's not surprising that the people on the lower end of the economic pole are taking what they need to survive, if the economy can't provide for your basic needs then fuck the economy.

I mean yeah shit's toxic. How it's allowed in the regular food supply is beyond me.

Who said Gov is an inefficiency engine? That sounds more like neo-liberal dogma then actual peer reviewed work.

Then perhaps reforming the commons? Agricultural land & surplus are owned in common by the people who live in the area. Government pays for the production of those food stuffs and only gets a nominal % tax on the surplus.

The land barons of CA are no joke. They are a problem that we are going to have to deal with one way or another.

I agree the money is going to come from the monetary supply and government acting as buyer and distributor of goods would be incredibly problematic. A subsidy of some kind for domestic production + placing a max profit markup IMO would be a more effective method.

I agree the money is going to come from the monetary supply and government acting as buyer and distributor of goods would be incredibly problematic. A subsidy of some kind for domestic production + placing a max profit markup IMO would be a more effective method.

There is not much anyone can do TBH. Too much of the social/political/monetary systems we currently live in have exponential growth baked into their values. It's incredibly hard to turn that around. Now there is work being done on building a different economic system but its anyone's guess if the current system will bend itself into that direction or it just breaks and the new system fills the void. But either way capitalism is dying and there is no hope of saving it.

On what exactly? Also where do you store it? Like I am all for government activity to collectively stockpile and supply materials but what materials and for what purpose? Also should it be a federal project/state project/both? IDK sometimes its just easier to use price controls then it is to handle logistics.

As a born/raised/living Californian I can attest to the fact that its not California that is the problem. But as my ancestors would say it's "El Pinche Gringo's" that tend to be the problem.

Oh yeah in so many ways its a too little too late. The best time to have fixed this problem was 40 years ago, the second best time is now. Nothing will be perfect, and we are definitely going to get so many things wrong. All I am saying is that there is some hope for something better, just gotta keep focusing on that and try hard to not fall down the rabbit hole of existential dread.

I agree to an extent. I think governments or more accurately the civil servants in government are taking it seriously. I work with a local Doughnut Economics group and 2 years ago we couldn't even get the time of day, now the amount of calls and emails we have gotten from state, city & county officials is amazing. They want to take it seriously its just they don't know how. However in my experience I think they are starting to adequately freak out now, they are just keeping a straight face because "don't want the public to panic".