Black people were once considered animals by slave owners and were given no rights. People who sold slaves were just following the laws of supply and demand too. The market isn't a great arbiter of morality, there's plenty of horrible things people will pay for, including the diseased livers of tortured ducks and geese. Doesn't make the product ethical just because someone will pay for it.

It's pronounced cash. It's a dumb name for the restaurant. It's a restaurant in Little Rock, Ark. Overpriced, animal abusing establishment.

I tried that now my scrotum is stretched out like a fucking yard!

I agree 100% with you killing aquatic life is bad for ecosystems and the animals themselves.

Saying the cows are born to die is arbitrary. There are cultures that consume dogs and cats for food, the same could be said about them.

If a serial killer was impregnating human women and stealing their babies to eat them, the same could be said about the babies the serial killer was eating. That they were just born to die.

Vegans don't consume any land or marine animals. Veganism is a philosophy concerned with avoiding harm to animals as far as possible and practicable.

It's not a philosophy of complete non-harm since that isn't attainable for most people with the social obligations they have.

Any argument for plant sentience is an argument for veganism since according to the USDA, animals consume over 70% of soy and 40% of corn in the US (humans only consume 10% of corn directly). Corn and soy are the two largest crops. Not only does buying animal products kill the animal for that product, but amplifies crop deaths from all the crops they are fed and are inefficiently converted to flesh. You can be vegan and not eat mushrooms. 95% of plant biologists are in agreement plants are not sentient. If they were, still makes sense to be vegan.

Same was said about whites against abolishing slavery.

Cows can live up to 20 years but the average age at slaughter for cows killed for their flesh is about 1.5 years.

I think your first point is an appeal to futility argument. It's also a good reason to be vegan as crop production to feed animals requires more labor, more injuries. In fact, slaughterhouses are some of the most dangerous places to work. Back to the victims though, there's no respectful way to kill someone who does not want to die - be it a deer or a human. It was part of white culture to wipe out indigenous people and own slaves and there were many whites in the civil war who died trying to protect the institution of slavery which was a part of their culture. Oat milk is based, I encourage you to go vegan.

I don't have to win you over. Either you'll understand not being vegan is abusive to animals or not. I don't buy your gaslighting that you going vegan is dependent on you liking me or not.

I was not implying the person is a rpist. I was using rpists as an example of why getting sensory pleasure from an act doesn't make it morally right.

To use a modern, Western, privileged, moral stance on something humans have been doing for millennia is just silly.

You are diseased in understanding and religion.

Come to me, that you may hear something of sound truth.

Do not unjustly eat fish the water has given up,

And do not desire as food the flesh of slaughtered animals,

Or the white milk of mothers who intended its pure draught

for their young, not noble ladies.

And do not grieve the unsuspecting birds by taking eggs;

for injustice is the worst of crimes.

And spare the honey which the bees get industriously

from the flowers of fragrant plants;

For they did not store it that it might belong to others,

Nor did they gather it for bounty and gifts.

I washed my hands of all this; and wish that I

Perceived my way before my hair went gray!

Al-Ma’arri: AD 973 – 1058 A vegan Arab philosopher and poet who lived in what is Syria today

That's a strange definition of love if it involves killing the individual you claim to care about. I don't think a person can love someone and then kill them unnecessarily. I don't think the length of time something has been happening makes it morally right or wrong. Slavery and colonization have been going on for long periods of time and most people recognize those might makes right practices as unethical. If there was another species that hunts, kills, and consumes humans, would you be OK being the victim if it was a part of their culture and in their same ecosystem?