SleezyDizasta

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (25 children)

I'm not too tuned in into European politics outside of specific areas, but my understanding is that people generally gravitate towards the boring moderate types because they tend to be the most safe and pragmatic option. The choice becomes a no brainer when the alternative is indeed fascistic. It's kind of like how we ended up with Biden. During the Democratic primaries, guys like Bernie or Yang had a more populist appeal. However, Biden was seen as the moderate with the wide appeal because he was safe, boring, pragmatic, experienced, etc even though nobody really had him as their initial first choice. When he won the nomination and the general election came down to him and Trump, everybody flocked to Biden because Trump is batshit crazy.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At the moment? None, but East Germany used to be a part of the eastern bloc, and there's still an uncomfortable amount of far left whackos that want that era back. They're not as popular as Afd right now because the big issue in the country at the moment is immigration, and Afd's platform is more much more hardline on that which is more appealing to the whackos than what the far left is offering.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Germany and France in particular are worrying cases when it comes to Europe because the have a sizable far left and far right that can be unhinged at times. What's worse is that there a good amount of whackos that are even further left than the fringe far left Marxist parties and the fringe neo Nazi parties.

In the case of Germany, it's pretty plausible that some infinitely far right neo Nazi would try assassinate her because she's a lesbian or some infinitely far left Marxist would try the same because she's the leader of the Afd or perhaps some crazy jihadist would try to assassinate her because she's both a woman and a lesbian.

I hope Europe in general tries to keep the lunatics out of power and continue to have pragmatic people rule. I don't want Europe to go through what we're going through with the Republicans right now. The end result would be something like Hungary with Orban, and nobody wants that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

no, but nothing is so black and white. do you perhaps think that bullies should always be acquiesced to? that defending yourself from attackers is inherently and unilaterally immoral?

You tell a teacher or parent on a bully and they'll punish them accordingly, or if you're an adult you report them to your HR department or whereever. You don't go and fucking shoot dead a bully. That's not a sane solution to anything.

they’re the ones constantly (publicly) cheering for me and my kind to be dragged out of our homes and shot for virtue of being born either non-white or non-straight (depending on flavor of republican, maybe both).

I understand they're discriminatory bigots, but Jesus are you overexaggerating. Like who is advocating for this? I want specific names and sources if you don't mind, bonus points if they're from prominent politicians.

the reason violence is no longer acceptable as a mechanism for political change is that we built a system to address grievances without it: our representative democracy. we rose above the need by using the law to ensure everyone can be heard

Exactly, that's the point, we have a functioning system, so why are you trying to justify terrorism?

they’ve already thoroughly corrupted the highest courts in our country to do so. they intend to continue to close all reasonable avenues of political resolution specifically for the purpose of being able to call any resistance to their rule “terrorism”, as you just have. this itself is an act of political violence.

Assassinations aren't resistance, what in the fuck are you talking about? Do you seriously not see the problem with self righteous assholes going on terrorism crusades killing political candidates they don't like? That's how we move from a stable democracy and into a failed state.

if I corner you in an alley with a gun so you have nowhere to run and tell you to give me your wallet, but I haven’t shot at you or even aimed it at you yet, does this make me non-violent? is it acceptable? would you fight back, or capitulate? how about if I then tell you to leave but not your partner?

What? These situations aren't even remotely comparable. You're trying so hard to justify terrorism that you're not even being logically coherent. No, somebody shooting someone who's directly threatening them in person as an act of self defense is vastly different from some rando shooting political candidates they don't like.

the police won’t help you, they don’t help your kind, and you probably brought it upon yourself in their eyes.

Idk what alternative reality you live in, but here in the real world, terrorism is condemned and legitimate peaceful avenues are pursued. Trump should be prevented from becoming president again, but this is done by defeating him in the election, not by fucking killing him and turning him into a martyr. Trump should be brought to justice via the criminal justice system, which has already found him guilty of a crime, not by some self righteous rando shooting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You take him down either by defeating him through the election or by taking to trial via the justice system, preferably both. Assassinations are not a fucking legitimate means of achieving political goals in democracy. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills for even having to explain something this simple.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the word right has different meaning in different contexts, I assumed you were talking about human rights as in the legally protected privileges that are granted to people... idk wtf you're talking about

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 month ago (37 children)

Let me put things in German terms for you, this is like Alice Weidel and Olaf Scholz running against each other in a close election for Chancellor, where Weidal is the batshit crazy candidate that spews conspiracy theories and Scholz is the sane guy that nobody likes but is better than the alternative. While Weidal is doing a rally for her campaign, some neo nazi, perhaps even further right than she is, attempts to assassinate her for whatever reason. Despite Scholz having nothing to do with the incident, Weidal and the entire Afd crowd start blaming him for it because of the conspiracy theories that she, her party, and her supporters spew and believe. That's how you get our current situation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Kevin Roberts reminds me a lot of Carl Schmitt. He is one dangerous motherfucker. Everybody talks about Trump, but Trump is just a figurehead. It's parasites like Roberts that are actively seeking to destroy the foundation of this country.

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