Filipi_7

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

990 Pro 4TB has two 16Tb TLC chips (2TB each),and 442GB SLC cache.

Does that mean the SLC cache is included in that 4TB, or is it separate? Because if it was separate, this would imply that it's there to be used even if the TLC chips are completely filled so the cache speed would not decrease when full, only writing to the TLC flash afterwards.

Unless that's how overprovisioning works? 990 Pro has 370GB overprovisioning within the TLC flash and 442GB SLC cache, together they roughly cancel out to give a total of 4TB capacity, which I guess would explain why cache runs out when the drive is full.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think one of us, including some other comments with links to similar benchmarks, is misunderstanding the conclusion behind a sequential write.

My question is, if a drive is, say, 90% full, how much slower it is compared to 0% full.

The linked test starts with an empty drive and writes data for 60 seconds, which is not enough to fill the drive. If you use the WD numbers as an example, it gets ~6000MB/s for ~35 seconds before the speed plummets. That's 210GB filled for a 1000GB drive (which is explained in their methodology, they are filling 20% of the drive). Here, the speed going down is a result of the cache filling up and forcing the drive to write directly to the flash memory.

In my question, I am assuming that when the drive is 90% full and idle, the cache is not being used, but I could be wrong. But if so, when I start writing the cache should be used as normal, keep the data there temporarily before writing it to flash at a later date. Question is how much slower this entire process is when full, but not when the cache is saturated. I don't think the test answers that.

 

I always hear people saying you need to leave ~20% of the space on your SSD free otherwise you'll suffer major slowdowns. No way I'm buying a 4TB drive and then leaving 800GB free on it, that is ridiculous.

Now obviously I know it's true. I have a Samsung 850 Evo right now that's 87% full, and with a quick CrystalDiskMark test I can see some of the write speeds dropped to about a third of what they are in reviews.

I'm sure that the amount of performance loss varies between drives, which to me would be a big part in deciding what I'd rather buy. AnandTech used to test empty and full drives as part of their testing suite (here, for example), but they don't have any reviews for the more interesting drives that came out in the last couple of years, like 990 Pro, SN850X, or KC3000.

Is there anyone else doing these kinds of benchmarks, for an empty and filled drive? It would be a lot better knowing just how bad filling a drive is instead of throwing 20% of it away (some suggest to keep 50% full at most) as some kind of rule of thumb.