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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Thank you, I'll probably touch it up later with actual inserted text fields. Running out of my available free time for the day but it was hot off the press and wanted to get it out there while it was still relevant lol.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's just not the same at all. How many times do you get to vote on the referenda? I'm really interested to know where this mindset comes from that a social media upvote/downvote is anything like a real political "vote". It's completely different except the name, is that where the confusion is coming from? Is this an age/demographic thing?

You can vote no or yes on a referendum. The Upvote is for comments that contribute, the downvote is for off-topic not that you disagree with the policy! By continuing this logic you're exposing you want to continue "Voting" on whether you agree with a topic in "privacy". That's not how public discourse works, which this is. You guys are acting like everyone is a guest speaker and you're the X-factor judge deciding if they should continue or get off the stage.

Anyone looking at the actual voting system on here would not say it's democratic or fair/balanced. There are no protections or even logic to construct a system like that because we're not voting on policies! This is a town square, not your local council. You're wanting to walk into the square and vote on the flowers or people walking by, that's not how public interaction should work!

In every single thread the downvote is abused as a "I disagree" or as a reactionary "I don't like this person". It does absolutely nothing for the conversation, it's solely for others to feel better if the numbers match their own personality or to dissuade the person who's being downvoted from voicing their opinion.

This whole event is rather sad and disheartening like a depressing xkcd

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Everyone's fleshed out a lot of the discussions so I'll just bullet point my opinion to try to better explain the discourse I'm seeing on here

  • I view "Lemmy" like it's a Community Center with group discussions, Community gatherings, and/or lectures with public comments. If you're in the crowd "Booing" (downvoting) without standing up and making your position clear, you're not adding anything to the discussion.

  • Downvote/Upvote is not like "Booth Voting" at all. You have ONE vote in a democracy, that's the core principle. You don't vote Yes for a candidate then vote No for another. You don't see a ticker above the booth tallying everyone's vote that was before you (voter manipulation, why hidden scores became a thing).

  • I think this would go over a lot better if mods had the choice of how to present the votes. Opt in or out of showing voters, opt in or out of showing scores or eliminating downvotes or even upvotes if you want. Give the power to the community and create useful tools for mods to try out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

You keep getting heated and bringing up other things that aren't equated trying to make some type of metaphor and it's not connecting for me so I apologize if you're getting frustrated. I don't see the social-score and "you have nothing to hide" being a valid argument that pertains to this discussion and just fear mongering distracting from a simple forum mechanic and a system of interacting with it.

I think the upvote/downvote system is abused by the general user by default when it comes to anonymity and many more are tempted as time progresses. When you're in a crowd you don't boo or cheer anonymously, it's an open public space where people see your actions. More accountability to the people interacting with a system seems like a positive to me.

In regards to the security/protection thing, others have already chimed in and hopefully you understand the data is already tracked and available to those who have a desire for it. My relevant parts where I talked about it before

You are not private or anonymous on here, if your actions on this platform put you in danger than do not continue to interact thinking it’s completely safe! These things can already be seen, this discussion is about making it show up in every UI by default instead.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Again, please stop saying this removes protections for trans/gay. That information is already public and you're making it seem like they are currently safe versus what this change would do to them. The blocking scenario is what happens now, you just wouldn't know they made a new account unless you're actually able to see it. IDK why you brought video games into this, more often it's for cheats as trolls and harassment get left unchecked on a lot of platforms. If votes don't matter now why not change it to a form where they do matter?

If I disagree with something I'll usually comment or upvote someone who has the same sentiment. I try my best not to petty downvote anything and I don't understand why you're stating you have to declare why you upvote, it's something you find as a contribution, already defined for an intended purpose. This doesn't take away any meaningful engagement besides mass voting in your scenario, people will still comment who have something to say. I think we just see two different sides of the aisle lol, ty for the discussion btw.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Gah, way to take it to extreme. You are not private or anonymous on here, if your actions on this platform put you in danger than do not continue to interact thinking it's completely safe! These things can already be seen, this discussion is about making it show up in every UI by default instead.

If someone is going through your history and downvoting in a harassing way, just block them. They're not there for discussion and the problem is solved. Without seeing a repeat offender you'll never know and the harassment can continue. I see discussions being more open honestly, you actually have to take a second to think about your downvote instead of just gut reacting it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I agree it would lead to less interaction, but the interaction lost would only be downvotes being used as a disagree button. No one is going to get harassed for downvoting a bot posting an ad or someone just completely off-topic, that which the downvote is suppose to be used for. In your scenario you point out that the comments you seek out have so many upvotes-downvotes because it's controversial, not that it doesn't add to the discussion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I saw some other's commenting about "private ballot boxes" but I think that's a false equivalency. You Vote in a democracy on policy and representation, not discourse. You're basically saying your upvote/downvote is being used to police conversation and who you think best represents you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I've been looking for someone to touch on this. I didn't like youtube getting rid of the downvotes but....what did it change? The only incidents I can think of is when there's vote bombing on a really bad video. Lemmynsfw got rid of downvotes and they're better for it. The only exception I can think of is a technical video that is just factually wrong but then there's always a comment highlighting that with upvotes. Seems like the only thing we lost was sensational downvoting and the thrill of jumping on a like-minded group dislike.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

I thought the whole argument was the internet was an echo chamber because of it being anonymous. Look at right-wing groups that employ masks where they can hide their true intentions behind "just being normal citizens". It's the groups like "Moms for Liberty" that are outed for their corruption because they have to use a public face during council meetings and such where you can't be anonymous.

I'm having trouble seeing how downvotes being public would lead to more harassment. You would have to make sure you're comfortable with putting your opinion forward just like with commenting. If there's someone going around downvoting someone relentlessly it will be brought to light for all to see, not hidden like it is now. That would encourage more people to speak up because their detractors would have to do so publicly and without explanation they seem like they're not bringing anything to the table in the discussion (returning downvotes to their true intention in the process).

edit' format, grammar

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can thank @[email protected] and @[email protected] for talking about hycybh the other day and getting me interested. My household is so grateful for the new songs lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

is it weird that I don't think it really looks like Starcraft (would probably be an improvement if it did though)? I've been looking at a lot of newer or undeveloped games like someone posted in one of the cross posts and all the games just have this moba-mobile look that seems like everyone is stuck on.

It's like AI generated images, they all have this same look and feel to them no matter what it is but you can't quite explain the fakeness to it. I can't even really look at older games art styles comparing to the newer without getting confused with what's happening or how it could be corrected.

 

I just wanted to use my voice to let everyone know about this since it seems to be something they want to Streisand effect. I made a discussion on the stormgate steam page about how their EULA has a bad link to their privacy policy and asked why the information listed in the policy is being collected. It had to go through the review process since it contained links and then after being posted was deleted from my history after an hour (I guess when someone actually laid eyes on it)

For the full details I already made a post in the privacy community asking if this was a common occurrence. I'm attempting to reach out through other avenues for some type of explanation but just getting crickets or brick walls. Please use caution and common sense when downloading and consenting to agreements from game companies.

The highlights if you don't feel like clicking the link:

In particular, we have collected the following categories of personal information from consumers within the last twelve (12) months:

A real name, alias, postal address, unique personal identifier, online identifier, Internet Protocol address, email address, account name, Social Security number, driver's license number, passport number, or other similar identifiers.

A name, signature, Social Security number, physical characteristics or description, address, telephone number, passport number, driver's license or state identification card number, insurance policy number, education, employment, employment history, bank account number, credit card number, debit card number, or any other financial information, medical information, or health insurance information.

Records of personal property, products or services purchased, obtained, or considered, or other purchasing or consuming histories or tendencies.

Browsing history, search history, information on a consumer's interaction with a website, application, or advertisement.

Physical location or movements.

 

Rather peeved about all of this. Been waiting for this game for ages and was excited about the F2P aspect then found out a lot of elements of the game are locked behind paywalls making the full game costing way over most AAA games. Ok, lets roll on anyways and see what the game has to offer. Then I get to the privacy policy and realize they're using anti-cheat services to monitor your game, I continued reading the user agreement and then had to find their actual privacy policy page because they have it listed under a different url then what they have posted. Some Highlights from the user agreement:

You may not host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Product, or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Frost Giant in any way, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized play over the internet, network play (except as expressly authorized by Frost Giant), or as part of content aggregation networks.

You may not organize, promote or participate in an esports competition for the Product which has not been licensed by Frost Giant.

You may not play on another user's Account

In order to safeguard its licensing rights, when you are using the Product, Frost Giant may monitor your hardware random access memory (RAM)

You understand that the mere presence of unauthorized cheat software on your device, whether or not you use that unauthorized software while playing the Game, may result in Frost Giant exercising its full rights under this Agreement.

Acknowledgments. You acknowledge that:

  • The Game which is the object of the Alpha or Beta Test is a work in progress and may contain bugs which may cause loss of data and/or damage to your computer system;
  • You have, or will, back-up your hard drive prior to installation of the Beta;
  • You have the resources necessary to easily reinstall the operating system for the computer system that you will use to take part in the Alpha or Beta Test as well as to restore any and all data that may be lost;

It just goes on and on with some really sketchy stuff, then I get to the privacy policy:

Your contact information/identifiers, such as your name, your gamer id, mailing address, email address, employer, primary language, country, social media credentials. preferred games and date of birth. If you contact us by telephone, we will also retain your telephone number.

Your geolocation data, if your device settings allow us to collect such information.

Your account preference information, such as your contact, communication and marketing preferences.

Your device and browsing information, including non-personally identifiable information about your phone, tablet, computer or device and online browsing activity, which may be automatically collected. This may include IP addresses, unique identifiers, cookie identifiers, browser language, device and browser settings and broad location-based information, and internet service provider information. It may also include information about when and how you accessed and used our Sites, how you navigated to our Sites (such as the date and time of your visit), the links you clicked, the websites you visited before and after our Sites, and what you searched for while on our Sites.

Analytics & Interest-Based Ads. We partner with third parties (like sponsors, content providers, and analytics companies) to help us improve our Services and better understand how you interact with them, as well as to support our marketing initiatives and ad campaigns. These companies may collect info from you automatically in connection with your visit.

And the really scary part

In particular, we have collected the following categories of personal information from consumers within the last twelve (12) months:

  • A real name, alias, postal address, unique personal identifier, online identifier, Internet Protocol address, email address, account name, Social Security number, driver's license number, passport number, or other similar identifiers.
  • A name, signature, Social Security number, physical characteristics or description, address, telephone number, passport number, driver's license or state identification card number, insurance policy number, education, employment, employment history, bank account number, credit card number, debit card number, or any other financial information, medical information, or health insurance information.
  • Records of personal property, products or services purchased, obtained, or considered, or other purchasing or consuming histories or tendencies.
  • Browsing history, search history, information on a consumer's interaction with a website, application, or advertisement.
  • Physical location or movements.

Third party service providers. - From time to time, Frost Giant may need to transmit your personal data to vendors or service providers that enable us to market, sell, or deliver our services. These service providers may require certain personal information in order to perform specific services on our behalf, such as cloud service and data storage, beta testing, tech support to enhance game operations, chat, customer support, social login, fulfillment and shipping, email and newsletter delivery, conducting surveys, payment processing, tournament operation, anti-cheat and fraud prevention, web hosting or web analytics. Such partners include:

Steam
Epic Online Services
RallyCry
Hathora
Brevo
Eventbrite
AWS
Sentry.io 
Google
Easy Anti-Cheat 
GGWP
Untapped
Kakao Games
ModSquad

I've stopped playing previous games that use these tactics and programs because there's just too many other games that don't require these that are available. This was a game I was hoping to get back into with some RTS friends I've made along the way, Is this just the way of the world or something to avoid?

 

This is the official ride video that was thankfully saved. If anyone has VR and has watched it like that let me know how it went! From Stargate fandom wiki

  • a simulator thrill ride based around the highly successful MGM television series Stargate SG-1 that made its debut at The Space Center in Bremen and Germany in December, 2003. A reproduction has now been built at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom, Six Flags Great America and Six Flags Marine World (which is now Six Flags Discovery Kingdom). As of 2006, Six Flags Great America no longer shows Stargate SG-3000.
  • 3000 years after the events of Stargate SG-1, the Stargate Network has long since been shut down by the Asgard. However, the network now becomes active again and the stored consciousness of General George S. Hammond reactivates to guide new SG team members through the gate to stop Satra, the daughter of Apophis who wishes to get revenge for the death of her father.

It's... interesting what they were trying to do with the IP. Apparently in 2021 the simulator was purchased by Hennie van der Most to be installed at Attractiepark Rotterdam (hard to follow the trail after that without translations but doubt they have the rights to show the old ride).

Some other interesting things to note:

From CoasterBuzz (2004)

MGM's syndicated Stargate SG-1 television show will be the basis for a simulator film showing at three Six Flags parks this year, including Marine World, Kentucky Kingdom and Great America. Stargate SG 3000 features a four-minute simulation film that lets audiences experience what happens when they soar through the Stargate into different dimensions. The 20-minute overall guest experience includes a themed queuing area, the mission briefing/pre-show and the motion simulator theater.

Facebook link to a set of photos taken while the exhibit was open, includes the queue area and a shot of the "pre-show".

The original Trailer for the ride

  • Also hoping to find the original pre-show and more information on the rides setup, no hits so far though.
 

Over the years I've been surprised by the number of mods created by fans of the show while waiting for an official IP game (Timekeepers does exist now, but is a very niche game). I thought this would be a good place to highlight some of those and will probably turn it into a side-bar spoiler.

What are some of your favorite mods you've ran across? I will populate and edit a list with the responses. If you wish to rate or describe the mod I will include that and your username as well. Links will be helpful but not necessary.

MinecraftModrinth Modpack - Stargate Eternity 7: Galaxy

Curseforge Mod List - Too many to individually list, link takes you to the search page

::: spoiler Stellaris Stargate Universe Reborn - Full conversion mod. Allows you to control your favorite race while trying to conquer the galaxy. :::

Space Empires IV and VTauri Shipset (SEV)

A lot of repositories are unfortunately not working now but Captain Kwok will hopefully be updating his website with all the files

XCom 2Stargate Glyph Face Paint and Voice packs

 

This was an hour long special released on Sci-fi on January 17th, 2005. Some hilarious interactions including reading online questions posed by viewers and a special Pierre Bernard and Micheal Shank interview!

 

Sorry for the vague question but I'm hoping there's a lot I"m missing. I know I can edit the side bar, icon, and banner. Make the community public or private and there's a "mod posting only" option. But is that it?

Some things I'm wondering about,

  • can I turn downvotes off or is that an instance only thing? (fan community, off topic would just be removed)
  • Is there any other way to manipulate the community page like backgrounds etc?
  • Flair's or post tags? Any community settings I looked over?
  • Allowing or disallowing bots (again is this an instance thing?)

I'm fine with what it is, just wanted to make sure there wasn't more I was missing with my options in the community.

Bonus question, besides crossposting and the "new communities" community sections, is there anything else I should do with a fresh community?

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/19022210

Just love everything about this segment and a truly awesome look behind the scenes.

Will be posting up the rest of the segments in chronological order in the cross-posted community

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/19022210

Just love everything about this segment and a truly awesome look behind the scenes.

Will be posting up the rest of the segments in chronological order in the cross-posted community

 

Just love everything about this segment and a truly awesome look behind the scenes.

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