AbsolutelyNotABot

I think we're just getting started.

Yeah of course, we need to remember Lemmy is not even out of beta yet. But people don't really care, they try it once and if the user experience isn't at the level of competitors they simply won't use it unless there's a philosophical rationale (for example decentralization, but many don't care at all). That's why I'm so happy many developers with great UX experience like Sync are approaching the platform

I mean... What? That's kind of exactly what's happening in lemmy communities

Indeed I can understand this one. I'm really liking Lemmy but discoverability is pretty bad, add the fact the ranking is shit and pretty useless in suggesting interesting content and you will understand his point.

Reddit has both much more content and not only a better ranking system but also a functioning personalized algorithm, if you want to use it.

To this day, all of the non mainstream Lemmy communities I'm following it's because I've used to follow the subreddit and it migrated here.

But I think there's a big difference here

I tried to use mastodon but I feel that microblogging inherently require some centralization, it's impossibile to find people to follow and the feed is always a mess with bunch of stuff that doesn't interest me.

On the contrary I'm using Lemmy since a while and it works much better for content discovery, communities act as a"human algorithm" the same way they work on Reddit and it help much with the federation approach.

What I arrived to realize is that some form of social media are more adaptable to the fediverse.

For example, I hardly see any decentralized version of TikTok

Centralized services are usually more efficient than decentralized but that's not the primary goal of the fediverse

My main concern with this is, if only a handful of centralized social network reached long term stability, and most of them are unprofitable, how can Lemmy (or any other foss fediverse project) completely hold itself on 2 unpaid developers and immense unpaid work from volunteers in the long run.

Because ok, Lemmy.world is looking for experienced sysadmin and that post already had a little backslash, but this isn't sustainable long term, it's impossibile to keep scaling like that.

And I feel that's one of the biggest reasons holding back the fediverse

I strongly disagree.

It's indeed an important sign the fediverse is growing organically and attracting people outside the niche.

I'd really like to see Lemmy compatibile server implementation and I don't care if they make the code closed source or you have to pay to register. The idea of the fediverse is exactly tho be open to diverse philosophies.

For the very same reason I'm glad threads will be federate with the rest of the fediverse. Don't like that particular instance? Don't use it, just like you don't use a website you don't like despite them using the same standard as everyone else

You're not, we also have English communities like https://feddit.it/c/askitaly And you're free to make post in English in italian communities using the English tag

The only thing they have at registration is that you need to write a sentence in "some regional italian slang" And that's basically serve the purpose to restrict a little bit sign in not to finish like lemmy.world targeting italian speakers

But it's actually pretty easy

Ok but the question that arise is:" if the community is duplicated on every server that access it, isn't it a little bit of a waste of computational power and disk space ?"

Expecially considering now Lemmy is pretty small, but in the future you could hopefully have a much larger audience

Honestly, this

I really can't understand people who would rather prefer the fediverse to stay small and irrelevant than to open up and find compromises to reach hundreds of millions of active users worldwide and making federated social media mainstream. Compromises will have to be made anyway, as Lemmy is already struggling under growth and poor developed software (it's not anybody's fault, it's literally a project by 2 developers and a few volunteers maintaining servers, they still have a long way to go)

On a sidenote, most Lemmy instances would probably explode under the weight of everyone following subreddit and server needing to replicate all the content from what would be alone several times bigger than the entire fediverse combined.

Ok but in the opposite direction you suggested

You alluded to the fact it has been subsidized, but it's the opposite, probably the program would be much better if EDF hadn't been treated like a cash cow

Ok but how other people will know I replied to a comment or posted if the community on the original server is down?

You can make identification decentralized/distributed too

Just in a different way so that it is unequivocal

You mean the company the french state squished for profit for 2 decades and that during the pandemic has been forced to subsidized electricity prices for everyone?