It make more sense on apple’s arm than x86. Maybe when we get arm framework
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it is not efficient enough. it would halve apples battery life
Yeah, that cooling solution actually ends up drawing more power than multiple high-performance, Apple Silicon CPU course
Only once the tech matures. Requiring 1 watt of power for every 4 watts of cooling is not efficient and would have an impact on battery life.
the next problem - 4 watts is about where they max out, and using four isn't a benefit, the tech has been around for years and hasn't gone anywhere, which is why this is an obscure startup not in everyday pc's
It is and has been used in industrial applications for a long time. Situations where you don’t want a spinning fan. But those are you say low power sustained cooling.
that would be hilarious if apple will buy them and integrate it into their pro line
Afaik they use less power for the same cooling capacity which would be a pretty nice cooler replacement in the future. But it will probably take some time even if FW engineers had the time to try it out right now. Integrating a cooler into the FW where every component needs to be in the exact same position because of compatibility issues would require a lot of work.
No they use FAR more power
I really prefer a simple fan. Much more cooling potential
This is a cool idea if you really needed some cooling for a Raspberry Pi-like device that has extremely stringent space requirements, but I can't imagine buying anything bigger than a tablet that doesn't have a fan.
That being said, I have a Microsoft Surface Pro and it would be nice to have even a little bit of active cooling.
Frore must have sent materials out to a bunch of media outlets because now there's an LTT video about it lol.
I saw that video and was impressed with a very "Alex" style solution. You give this to engineers who are gonna put in the time and engineering time, things are gonna be very interesting.
It's due to overtake a lot of conventional fan technology, eventually, increasing the wattage consumption vs dissipation as far as I know scales with size, but the dedicated control board will probably be integrated into the units themselves for drop in legacy control, or they will get more sophisticated and replace existing fan controls. It's a real neat technology, but it will take awhile for framework themselves to implement into their products, but their open approach will be a huge asset for off label upgrades
Im theory is a great idea and i had the exact same thought as a drop in mod or included with future mainboards. I dont think the technology is there yet especially for relatively high watts on current gen amds/intels compared to mba with m2.
Fingers-crossed in the near future. A passively of near silent framework but without huge performance loss or throttling would be a dream come true.
I've seen this chip cooler on youtube a few times, but seems like it hasn't come out on any products yet. Hopefully it's not just vaporware, because it looks super cool.
The issue with solutions like this is the amount of power draw they require for the cooling potential. In non-battery powered ultra slim devices that have a low power draw. They may have a market, but they also cost a lot so that tends to be industrial applications that can absorb the cost and don’t have high thermal load.
That is why the demo is with a MacBook Air and they need to use three of them.