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Hello,

I’m currently building a new house (EU). I’m planning to put ESP32 sensors in every room (top corner) with mmWave sensor to have a reliable presence detection.

I don’t know what the best way to power the esp32 is? Wi-Fi coverage should be good enough, so Ethernet is a plus but not mandatory.

POE looks nice but might require a bigger box as ESP32 with Ethernet looks bigger? Also, I’m not sure it will be able to power the mmWave sensor? I only saw 3.3V output. Any recommendations?

5V run from a central location (garage) might be difficult with voltage drop. Any recommendations for some cable specs and maybe experiences?

Last option would be a regular 230V run with 230V/5V transformer next to each ESP32, which also leads to a bigger box.

What do you think would be the best option?

Thank you for your advice!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

One option might be a POE to 12/9/5v convertor like this. I use one to run a 12v non-POE switch up in my attic from a basement POE switch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

POE looks nice but might require a bigger box as ESP32 with Ethernet looks bigger? Also, I’m not sure it will be able to power the mmWave sensor? I only saw 3.3V output. Any recommendations?

We are building mmWave sensors using the Olimex ESP32-POE. This board has both 5v and 3.3v available on the side set of pins.

Yes, the PoE boards are a bit larger than USB-powered devkits, and the price is a little higher -- felt the extra reliability justified spending a little more for a device with integrated PoE versus adding complexity with WiFi or separate power supplies for each sensor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks for your reply. I missed the fact that the Olimex supports 5V, that makes it the best option so far! I’m planning at least 14 sensors so I’m trying to keep it cheap. Everythingsmarthome version of ESP looks nice but as I’m not in the UK, their import taxes make it really expensive for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Don't have a solution for you but please post updates of how you build this out. I'm considering it for my new house too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If you run voltage from a central location and start with higher voltage (say 12v) and run the lines through an h-bridge you can configure the voltage separately for each run so that even with voltage drop you’ll be at 5v at the the point of the esp32.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Run cat 6a, 48v is a good choice and you can use a simple dc to dc at the esp32 end. Can do the same for the sensor. Throw it all in a plastic workbox.

from a cost and complexity the esp32 with poe is pretty cheap and you can probably tap into spare1 and 2 to run a dc to dc for the mm wave sensor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the esp32 with poe is pretty cheap

Which make & model?

Throw it all in a plastic workbox.

Not sure where u/Logical-Meta is located, what their standard workbox/switchbox dimensions are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

https://www.olimex.com/Products/IoT/ESP32/ESP32-POE/open-source-hardware

18 euro with discounts a 10 plus.

Now from a practical standpoint if it's just a mmwave presence could wire those all back to a central location and avoid putting a micro in every room.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks for your insights. I was planning to use mmWave (LD2410?), PIR, BLE tracer and luminance sensor with custom 3D printed case.

Basically, what EverythingSmartHome proposes but ideally, cheaper. And I’ll be able to updates parts of it as technology evolves (i.e. mmWave).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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