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I7 13700k, i7 14700KF or i7 14700k (alien.top)
submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I don't know which to get. I currently have a i5-9600k, but it's ready for an upgrade. And there are a couple of deals.

I7 13700: 389 euro I7 14700KF: 429 euro I7 14700K: 469 euro(419 euro deal is unfortunately sold out)

I'm leaning towards the KF, but don't know if it's worth it. Hope to get some advice! Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The 14700K and KF are a very recent refresh of the 13700K.

They should be priced similarly, and they should perform a little better in productivity applications, and have some extra features (e.g. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000095419/processors.html). Unless you can find a very good price for the 13700K, pick a 14700K or KF.

The 14700K includes a built-in GPU which the KF does not. Some streaming applications may use it to encode your stream, and it may help in some other applications (e.g. Corel Painter) if you use those. It may also come in handy if you have a discrete GPU, but it fails, and you need something whilst it's being repaired or replaced.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the reply. I'm not really up to date with my knowledge, so this helps. I'm really considering buying the 14700K. However, I saw a review saying the temperatures might be high and that a good cooler is needed. So my question is, will my Coolermaster RL240L v2 do the job? Hope you can help me with this question!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

According to https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/236783/intel-core-i7-processor-14700k-33m-cache-up-to-5-60-ghz/specifications.html the 14700K base power is 125W TDP, but it can turbo boost up to 253W TDP (the 13700K is the same, by the way).

Do you mean the Coolermaster ML240L v2? https://www.coolermaster.com/uk/en-gb/catalog/coolers/cpu-liquid-coolers/masterliquid-ml240l-v2-rgb/#specifications says it can handle TDPs of up to 180W by my reading. Enough that the 14700K won't be damaged, but... it'll probably hit thermal throttling under peak load, resulting in poorer performance than with a cooler that can handle 253W or more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! That's my cooler indeed. Any suggestions for a cooler that would be a great match?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd start by Googling e.g. "14700K recommended coolers".

https://tech4gamers.com/best-cpu-cooler-for-i7-14700k/ looks plausible.

https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=cpucooler&xf=16454_253~817_all1700 shows all coolers for Socket 1700 that are explicitly specified to meet or exceed its 253W TDP. You might also consider a slightly more relaxed 250W search: https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=cpucooler&xf=16454_250~817_all1700

If you prefer a watercooling kit: https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=coolwsets&xf=4666_all1700

I've never used watercooling (I fundamentally dislike the idea of water sloshing around inside my computer, plus the failure modes seem a bit less predictable and more sudden and total), but the tech4gamers article suggests that a >360mm radiator might be appropriate for these CPUs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes. Again, thanks for your help and sorry for asking so much. Atleast I know what to do now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The 14700K is not really a refresh of the 13700K, it has an additional 4 E-Cores, it really is the only improved CPU among the K SKUs on the 14th gen.

So if OP uses multi-threaded applications a lot, the additional E-Cores on the 14700K might be worth the difference in costs. In gaming, besides the 2 APO games, 13700K and 14700K perform more or less the same, the difference can be gained by slightly oc'ing the 13700K.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

14700K all the way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just built my new PC (three days ago) with a i5 14600k and I am very happy with it. I was thinking between 14600k and 14600kf, but I went with a K because of the integrated graphics card. Which was a blessing because my new graphics card was acting out (as I thought at the time) and it allowed me to troubleshoot the system. If I went with a KF that has no integrated graphics card, I would have been in a major pickle. All in all it was not the graphics card that was the problem, but somehow my windows installation was corrupted and it got fixed with another installation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the explanation. For me it's kinda new so i'm still learning, this helps. What made you go for the i5 over i7?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

To be fair there were a few things that influenced my decision:

  1. I primarily game on consoles these days. Therefore, I do not need a high end gaming PC anymore.
  2. I use my PC to play my favourite old and older games in 4K 120fps. For that and for some newer ones in 4K 60fps and i5 is more than enough. I play all of that on a 55 inch QLED TV.
  3. The benchmarks I saw showed a small difference between an i5 14600k and an i7 14700k. For example here https://youtu.be/lPujFWliL20?si=ItCHJHD3Nz81KSrh Therefore, I decided it was not worth 100€ more.
  4. A lot of reviews have said that it is not necessary to go with an i7 unless you want to perform some heavy duty task and that an i5 is more than enough for proper gaming.

Basically this was enough for my needs. I always look at my needs first and then at price vs performance. As I said, my needs have changed in the last few years so I decided not to go with the absolute high end PC like I used to do (back in the day). I hope this helps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Important question is: what will you do with it? Gaming, work? For work, get the 14700k. Gaming, 14700kf. Ultra budget, 13700k/kf/non k paired with b760/z690.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

13700K

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Where are you from?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

14700k. Done

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

14700k, always good to have a backup gpu to boot from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

For troubleshooting purpose don't take a F serie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Could you explain?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

if your gpu will die you can find out if its dead by plugging cable to your motherboard

[–] Outtatime 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What they're trying to say is that one of these chips didn't have a graphics chip integrated into CPU

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's worth it but it's usually only $25 extra for the igpu. If I thought I had issues with my gpu, I would plugin another gpu.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

what if you wouldnt have another GPU laying around?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I endorse this message.

How confident are you your video card is going to work out of the box, and stay working? In my case (Linux/Nvidia) the answer is "not very".

(40 euro seems like a lot to pay for onboard video, but even if you only need it once...)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

14700k, don’t underestimate the value of iGPU