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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You're not even showing the full SMART output. Resize the window to show all attributes and repost.

But if truly 131088 reallocated sectors, the disk is likely dying and if you try to read data off it I wouldn't doubt if you'd start to get errors.

That is like a ten year old hard drive. If there's anything you need off there then dd the disk to an image file or if it's really important look for a data recovery service.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

2^17 is exactly 131072, just exactly 16 (2^4 ) away from 131088, sus

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

the 131072 ones would probably go away without actual reallocation on next write, that seems to be an intermittent issue on HGSTs, losing whole tracks randomly (possibly caused by incorrect disconnect, had that happen once. that thing has quite a lot of power-on counts, q-sense error rate is also quite high). Ofc that's 64kB of data lost.

I'd be more concerned about the other 16 honestly

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

All of the other values on the drive were zero except for Reallocation Event which was 2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you have a backup, not concerned at all. If not....extremely concerned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Concerned? Why start now after all these years without a backup strategy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because not everyone was born in Google's data center following the best ever data storage practices , and decided to take data hoarding seriously after collecting a lot of data

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Best switch to decaf and lighten up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Didnt have enough money for a full professional backup.

Personally, I have enough to make do with crude smaller backups

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Generally I go by this rule

If it says it's fine, be careful, as SMART can miss things

If it says something is wrong, act immediately.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I've noticed all my seagate drives have millions or errors, even the new ones, almost immediately after buying them. Western Digitals had zero for that same SMART category. I thought it was the fact that they tried to shingle the magnetic particles or something, leading to a lot of recoverable errors by design. Should I be sending all my seagate drives back for warranty?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So whatever it says, be wary?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Well if it says something is wrong I believe it, if it thinks everything is fine I don't always believe it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

I appreciate the insight everyone. Thanks. Will get it backed up tonight.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

I would be concerned but tbh, living outside the US sometimes it takes weeks to replace drives for servers after a SMART event. We also have servers out of warranty with SMART failing HD that just refuse to die after a decade.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Pull the drive and get your stuff off immediately, and replace.

The drive is fucked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

100 reallocated sectors is concerning. 100,000? The drive doesn’t even have that many spare sectors to use.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All the concern. But that drive hasn't been around that long. Like that's warranty level.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

I don't know why the Power On Hours are so low but this is a 10 year old drive. I'm guessing it's because I transplanted it into a different system about that long ago.