Home Automation

Hey to say it but that’s why I went with Amazon, they may be evil but they’re going to support their products unlike these smaller companies and Google who kills everything

Just two words - Home Assistant

I use as much Tasmota/Beken compatible smart devices as I can. I avoid cloud (someone else's computers) as much as I can.

Just experienced this. Google killed Works with Nest and then Nest Secure. This prompted me to rethink my whole Smart Home strategy, dropping Google where possible, replacing SmartThings with Hubitat, and removing any device that wasn’t standards based (e.g. WiFi devices since k retractions are software based.)

I’ve had a more reliable system since and am actually able to enjoy Home Automation again.

I've had my smart home switches, plugs and other devices for 5 years now, I am actively looking at matter devices just to provide more longevity to my setup.

Better regulation can fix this problem.

#LOL

No.

I use as many open devices, non-cloud devices, Zigbee devices. I run Home Assistant and Zigbee2Mqtt, for privacy reasons but also to not dependant on 3rd parties that WILL change their policy, support, software, business model…

But that's me, I can do this, because I have the knowledge and I want to invest the time in it. Manufacturers sell devices, claiming it will make things simple for consumers, only to screw them over later on. AS such I do think consumers should be protected. It's NOT acceptable devices stop providing services within 10 years of purchase (unless of course the company goes out of business). I do think companies should be forced to support devices a long time in the same way they did when the device was first sold.

ie. you could use your light bulbs without account on a hue 1 bridge, that should still be the case 10 years later.

There are some edge cases where 10 years indeed is too long (ie. severe security issues, underlying stuff that stops working, …) but there is no reason your lights should stop working because the hub you used the past 5 years is no longer supported, or the requirement of an account is created by the company, Or even the api access is limited after selling the device.

As long as consumers aren't protected, you should not buy yourself into the mercy of a random capitalist company.

My stuff works great for me, continues to get updates and is reliable… These articles that make generalizations like this are dumb.

Can I point out that 'Smart Devices' have stopped trying to be Smart, and just trying to Data Harvest.

This is why you should do local control only. Zwave and ESPHome are great for that. I am still trying to figure out how to get my MyQ opener to work with an ESPHome relay

I'm waiting for matter to really take off...

Once again, cloud based automation is for suckers

Think of it as establishing a baseline for good device behavior. And for that to happen, we need to update our laws and regulations.

Um, no. I agree the industry could narrow down the standards and make better interoperability, but let's keep the government out of this for crying out loud.