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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It will be weaker than 7+ gen 2, because 7+ gen 2 was lower binned version of 8+ gen 1, and it's cost was close to 8+ gen 1.

So, smartphones brands bought 8+ gen 1, because of additional bragging rights of 8 series chipset.

Hope it will be priced reasonably

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

And we thought that their lineup would be simplified when the "Gen" moniker was introduced..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Unrelated but god do I love my SD 865 phone (Samsung S20 FE), not only was it as efficient as it's successors like SD 870, 888, 8 Gen 1, it was also rare to find as Samsung was putting Exynos chips instead of Snapdragon on my country, my desktop PC CPU is TSMC 7nm, my phone soc is TSMC 7nm, my laptop cpu is also TSMC 7nm. I love TSMC 7nm and I love materialism :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

similarly unrelated, I liked my sd870 (it's almost the same as a 865) which was stolen so i replaced it with the exynos 1280 which i thought would be similar having newer cores and a better node, but no it's slower and drains battery much faster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

865 / 870 were the last good chips from Snapdragon / ARM.

I went back to using my Mi 11x (Cheap Snapdragon 870, which I got for $240 back in 2020) and it STILL has more battery life than my 1 year old Moto Edge 30 Pro (8gen1, $420)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

No, they weren't. Snap 8+G1, 8G2, 8G3 and 7+G2 are just as fantastic, if not better than 865/870. They're so fast that 865 is basically a mid-range SoC in performance now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

No motherboard issue in mi11x after warranty ending?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Same. I mail forwarded my S20 FE to get the Snapdragon version. Works perfectly. Doesn't get hot, lasts long. A very well balanced device overall. I like my 'cheap' plastic back and the flat screen too. :-)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

given how bad is SD 888, 8 Gen 1(samsung ver.) I am actually surprise qualcomm didnt port the 870 to TSMC 6nm call it 875. With 6nm that chip can push another step further b4 moving to 5nm/4nm.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

This is clearly a successor to the Snapdragon 7 Gen 1, and not the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2. This can be noticed by:

  • No large core (the 7+ Gen 2 has a Cortex-X2 core)
  • An Adreno 720 GPU (7+ Gen 2 has an Adreno 725)
  • FastConnect 6700 modem, without Wi-Fi 7 or Bluetooth 5.4
  • Triple 12-bit ISPs (instead of Triple 18-bit)
  • Slow motion capture at 1080p @ 120 FPS (instead of 1080p240)

The ISP is the most noticeable: Even the Snapdragon 7 Gen 1 has a Triple 14-bit ISP. I'm curious why only 12-bit color depth is supported in these times of computational photography.

That said, if this chip is marketed cheaper than the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2, it seems like a very capable chip. It is the first and cheapest 7-series chip with Cortex-A715 cores and the TSMC 4nm process is still state of the art. The AI engine supports INT4 mixed precision (in addition to INT8 and INT16), which can provide double the performance for some models with relatively little loss in precision.

Unfortunately, hardware decoding of AV1 video is not supported.

What is also interesting is the Triple Frequency GNSS (L1/L5/L2) support. The only other SoC that has that (as far as I know) is the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Also the model number SM7550-AB, 7g1 was SM7450-AB.
Odd that 7g is fragmented into three significantly different tiers 7x35, 7x50, 7x75

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I thought AMD and Intel’s revamped naming schemes took the cake with being the least understanding, but Snapdragon is just incredible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It does make sense given that 7+G2 was rejected by OEMs. Sucks, but it is what it is. Lack of AV1 support does piss me though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Fuck it is USB naming scheme all over again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Fraudcomm is back at it again, only naming scheme where 2 > 3