Nobody is forced to buy this. If it didn’t sell they wouldn’t make it.
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I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with selling it or people buying it, Zen still works, but it is wrong for AMD to sell something they drop support for. Also, not sure how well this would work for windows 11. Perhaps if 10 or linux.
Yeah, if there's a market for older CPUs they're going to sell it.
I mean Intel still manufactured new original 386 chips until 2007 or so, more than 20 years after release. And who knows how long they still had stock for, if you asked them today with enough $$$ they might find some in a warehouse somewhere.
I beleive some of the early x86 stock was bought up by the space industry as well, along with powerpc and things like that. very large process nodes and simple as possible feature set are a simple way to increase resistance to radiation effects before shielding.
Most accurate comment ever.
Back in 2019 i build a computer with athlon ge 200. Was using it until i bought 1600 a couole momths after. Sure, athlon was not a powerhouse, however, it was a good cpu for basic home computer. And the fact it played a lot of older games without problems was nuts.
Would have been nice to see a newer entry level CPU than the 3000G.
That's Mendocino, but they didn't bring it to desktop market and probably will not.
Meanwhile AMD drops Vega drivers, and any other support for such an old CPU, and gets away with selling it.
What does Vega drivers have to do with these CPUs? Vega are GPUs.
AMD hasn't dropped vega drivers though... they moved them to a legacy release cycle, which means they'll get drivers for Windows 10/11 but at a much slower rate without new features. Adrenalin 23.11.1 is the latest Vega driver... Just checked the Ryzen 3 2200U is still on the latest driver....
What they do, do is reduce the rate of updates, EG if something breaks polaris in a driver update it might be a few months before those cards get on a new driver... in the grand scheme of things its a non issue for 99% of users.
Aka me
And there's people that claim otherwise.
Bought these for cheap office pcs 2 yrs ago. Does its job.
Good thing they ditched AM3-era heatsink for modern Wraith Stealth cooler. There's still a market for everyday desktop PC for home and office use.
However, it still needs to be paired with between old A320 to X470 mobos only. A520 and above mobos are unsupported.
There's always a market for a sub $50 CPU. Office PC, Grandma's HTPC, a starter computer for your kid, etc.
No shit, I am running a Win NT machine just for excel. Until this thing dies, I have no reason to replace it whatsoever. Too bad CRT went kaput years ago.
Too bad they're so expensive in Australia, A$159 here.
It's only A$189 for a 5600G, I'd be all over one of these for AUD$79 (or less!).
Appliance hardware, kiosks, industrial computers, etc. Equipment we buy at work, a lot of times it comes with older processors.
Yep, that too! There is an enormous amount of lower end hardware used in such kinds of equipment.
I built a PC for my wife's beauty salon with the remains of my old PCs. i7 980 CPU, Asus Sabertooth X58 MB, 16GB kingston DDR3 1666Mhz, Kingston 500GB SSD, AMD HD7870... I could have used a RX 570 8Gb but for what she uses it, it would be a waste.
There’s nothing wrong with the 14nm, and not everyone needs 16 cores to use word and excel
It's less power efficient
That's fine and all, but I think 4c/4t should be the absolute lowest tier, not 2c/4t. It also comes with a Vega iGPU, and AMD already said it is winding down support for new drivers.
Why does the Athlon series get all of the cool looking boxes? Lmao.
There would never be enough throughput for silicon if we only used the latest nodes. These factories can operate for decades
If this thing was 4 core it would be incredible
With no representative to compete in the entry-level market, it's easy to see why AMD has kept the Athlon 3000G alive after all these years. It might sound shocking, but the Athlon 3000G is one of the few processors that haven't lost its value since its debut. The Athlon 3000G launched at $49 four years ago, and the Zen chip still retails at the same MSRP. The price varies depending on the stock, as third-party sellers often jack up the price tag to around $65 or over $100.
it depreciates with inflation. crazy. no wonder they're keeping them in production and refreshing the packaging.
These and other products (like Zen+ embedded) likely fulfill AMD's (contractual) wafer-buy obligations to GloFo until 2025. Though GloFo is seeing pretty high demand on 12/14nm for products that don't really need leading-edge silicon. Trailing-edge is just fine and much more affordable.
The box for this CPU unironically goes hard
It honestly looks like the Starfield 7800X3D box at a glance
There aren't a lot of places AMD can use 14nm anymore. They're locked into a wafer supply agreement with GlobalFoundries until 2025 and GF abandoned development on their sub-14/12nm nodes.
Since AMD is moving even IO dies to more advanced nodes, they're running out of places where they can use GlobalFoundries.
14nm is the Nokia 3310 of process nodes. It doesn't give a shit what year it is. It just refuses to die 🗿
14nm CPUs go hard
Just bought replacements parts for my pc (motherboard died, killing CPU and ram). I love the prices of the AM4 platform ;-)
Reminds me of the AMD Sempron packaging.
I'm running a OMV NAS with a 3000G - 35W TDP, passively cooled with this, runs my Docker images and everything, just perfect for such use cases.
For my neighbor I just got them a i5-3470S OptiPlex 8GB ram and 256GB SSD delivered for $46. They had a 2007-2011 model PC that had 7 then 10 then 11 and was so slow.
I remember having Athlon X4 processor. They were great.
wait a min, these are real dual core or just quad core APU with disabled units?
It would have been a good idea to read the article carefully. :)
Still, to save you the time, these are the real dual core ones, which are the ones compatible with Windows 11, and they're getting a new box to ensure that people don't by the other version by mistake.
Alternatively, they could have gotten a new name to make sure people don’t buy the old one by mistake. Idk, just a thought.
There is a fantastic sale on eBay that has new Ryzen 7 5800X for $180, I got one last month and have been amazed by it, how smooth the games are now, how quick the responses are. I am loving it. It's my first Ryzen/AMD CPU. It's so great.
this is good news, anyone who says otherwise is delusional
AMD continues to sell, so, they’re still selling, so what’s the point here? If they were making them but not selling them then this post might have a point..