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I feel like the specs on rm2 are a bit outdated. Personally compared to an iPad for example there is a noticeable delay. Any1 any updates about a new version coming out?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Compared to an iPad? Compared to a device where they make each version obsolete on purpose in order to sell the next new device?

Remarkable is excellent with constantly improving the tablet. Id prefer they continue to release new excellent software improvements instead of moving on from the RM2 to release an RM3.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Repeated response to a repeated question.

The best indication of an rM3 in development is new device filings by the company to the US Federal Communications Commission. Schematics and other documentation for new devices with any wireless radios must be submitted to the FCC for approval before going to market. ReMarkable's pattern so far has been to lodge documents with the FCC 18 to 24 months before their devices launch. There not being any new filings on their company page at the FCC website, there is nothing in pipeline that we can expect to see in the short to medium term.

Secondly, considering the screen to be the most critical part of the reMarkable platform, there have been no developments in the e-ink space that has produced a significantly clearer, more responsive or faster refreshing panel in greyscale or colour to trigger the company to want to do a hardware refresh. The company's current standard would require the panel to be whiter, faster, and fully usable without back or side lighting.

That said, they may be watching developments in the colour e-ink space around which they might build a device. But, as noted, a colour rM would have to beat the rM2 in all performance areas. Colour e-ink isn't there yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, for me to upgrade it would probably have to be everything as good as the RM2 plus colour.

I'd be happy with very basic colour that is adequate for highlighting, but not if it was at a lower resolution or was a drop in performance.

I don't see much advantage for a relatively small company to do anything other than software improvements until then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm on the fence of a Rm2 right now only because the device has been out for so long and don't want to be burned buying so late in the product life.

I'd definitely jump in if they kept everything the same, updated the screen to the Kindle Scribe 300 dpi and added current gen color e ink at the current 150 dpi.

I also only recently started journaling and have a goal to either finish the notebook I just bought front to back or to go all of 2024 writing a jounral entry every day.

So maybe by Christmas time 2024 what I want will be out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Consider this.

The original reMarkable is equipped with the same resolution screen, uses the same pens, and is installed with the same software as on the rM2. The only functionality difference is that the rM1 has buttons on its chin and the rM2 does not.

Given how dependent the software platform is on 1872 x 1404 resolution, a more pixel dense screen is going to mean a smaller device, or a device with a worse screen to body ratio in order to accommodate reMarkable's first and only peripheral - the Type Folio.

If a new rM is going to be produced, given economies of scale, it is more likely to replicate the form factor of the rM2. To be worth the factory retooling effort, that's going to have to be a way superior greyscale e-ink screen, or colour at the same resolution and size that matches or improves on the current greyscale experience. Neither is in discernable pipeline at present.

Given that there is nothing on the FCC site and the state of development of components of the device, you should get some years out of a device purchased today.

If writing were all you wanted to do, you wouldn't hedge on the reMarkable 2. It does that, it does it extremely well, it's still better at it than all its competitors, and the company continues to improve that experience exclusively in software, meaning the hardware has legs.

Don't be taken in by other hardware manufacturers' forced refresh induced by marketing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I’ve seen some new (more expensive) color e-ink tablets now. I’m assuming Remarkable will have to update the hardware to keep up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

iPad is not a good benchmark to compare rM2 with. It’s great for notetaking (for which it is supposed to be used). I tried Boox recently but came back to remarkable because of it’s superior writing feel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The boox was too slippery. My writing ended up being bigger as a result which meant less notes per "page"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The delay isn't for lack of horsepower, it's just the nature of e-ink. There's not much sense in comparing an e-ink device to an LCD device. An RM3 won't switch to LCD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not trying to start a heated discussion here, but tbh, 1GB ram on any tablet in 2024 for a several hundred euros device is abit outdated, even if its just enough for its orginal use case 3 years ago.

I mean, don't RM2 users wish there is just at least one more Gig of ram in their devices in 2024 for the price they are paying? I sometimes really wish its 2GB instead of 1GB. If Remarkable allows users upgrade the RAM at a price, I would do that in a heartbeat.

PS: I have been a Remarkable fan since RM1 days... and yes, comparing RM2 to an iPad is not exactly the smartest thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

But why? 1GB ram is obviously enough for the rM use case of writing notes. Why would it need more?

Thinking that you nee a bigger memory just because time advances is a bit silly. The rM is not a tablet that runs applications with increasing resource demands, but a digital notebook whose computational needs in terms of function are comparable to computers of, like, 2 decades ago (or even earlier). What’s innovative about it is not its computing power and memory, but the smooth function of the e-ink screen and handwriting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Bro you're comparing an e-ink display to an lcd panel. Of course there would be a delay. Even the newest top of the line e-ink tablets lag in comparison to an entry level iPad.