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2080 Ti Hybrid pump died so I put a shitty chinese waterblock on it. More pics in comments (alien.top)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Its not poor quality control, its chemistry.

There is a potential of 2 electron volt between copper and aluminium. If both materials are electrically connected, electromigration starts to eat away the aluminium. The radiator will leak soon.

That is why you cannot put normal water in the loop. Manufacturers use non conductive liquid and special inhibitors so that almost no electromigration takes place. As soon as you open it, the liquid can get contaminated which will make it conductive again. Inhibitors also don't last forever, so every all in one has a built in self destruct.

The only solution is to switch to a copper radiator. the block and pump are usually fine. But the microfin array is where the corroded aluminium will build up. You likely replaced the wrong part.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Before anyone downvotes me, the comment above is disparaging and assumes I don't know what I am doing, but remember I'm the crazy girl who shunt mods an A2000.

special inhibitors

There's nothing special about propylene/ethylene glycol. You can use antifreeze with distilled water and biocide like a silver nugget.

That is why you cannot put normal water in the loop. Manufacturers use non conductive liquid and special inhibitors so that almost no electromigration takes place.

I used 50/50 PG mix. Every single Cooler Master radiator I hav, even pulled fresh off AiOs, hav this problem. It's definitely just low quality aluminum meant for mass manufactured shit products meant to last 2-3 years tops. Several other alu radiators I have don't have this problem.

You keep trying to act smart. It's not 'electromigration' kid, it's called galvanic corrosion. Learn your shit.

Electromigration is when the migration of electrons in an electrical component cause the material to weaken over time and only happens if you do stupid stuff like run a 2500k at 5.0Ghz for 3 years.

Stop acting like I'm the dumbass here, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

You likely replaced the wrong part.

A full system bleed and refill with the same PG mix I've been using for 15 years isn't a wrong part.

Delete your comment. Verpiss dich.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

how do I downvote a comment multiple times without breaking reddit TOS?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

special inhibitors

There's NOTHING fucking special about propylene/ethylene glycol.

That is why you cannot put normal water in the loop. Manufacturers use non conductive liquid and special inhibitors so that almost no electromigration takes place.

Yea no shit, I used 50/50 PG mix. Every single Cooler Master radiator I have, even pulled fresh off AiOs, hav this problem.

Stop acting like I'm the dumbass here, I've been doing this for nearly 20 years.

Verpiss dich.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Before anyone downvotes me, the comment above is disparaging and assumes I don't know what I am doing, very typical know-it-all German "I never passed engineering course" attitude.

special inhibitors

There's NOTHIN special about propylene/ethylene glycol.

That is why you cannot put normal water in the loop. Manufacturers use non conductive liquid and special inhibitors so that almost no electromigration takes place.

Yea no shit, I used 50/50 PG mix. Every single Cooler Master radiator I hav, even pulled fresh off AiOs, hav this problem. It's definitely just low quality aluminum meant for mass manufactured shit products meant to last 2-3 years tops. Several other alu radiators I have don't have this problem.

Stop acting like I'm the dumbass here, I've been doing this for nearly 20 years, and I'm probably older than you.

You likely replaced the wrong part.

A full system bleed and refill with the same PG mix I've been using for 15 years isn't a wrong part.

Delete your comment. Verpiss dich.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

https://i.imgur.com/JNcqq6D.jpg

temps and hotspot temp dropped by 40c lol, the old pump got clogged a few months after i refilled it due to Cooler Master's poor aluminum radiator quality control.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I believe bykski has a block for the 2080 Ti. I have the founders edition but I’m sure they still have some available for your model! In case you chose to do so. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There is nothing wrong with the block. Even this simple GPU only block has very similar fins and spacing to a Byksi or EK one. Should perform the same within margins of errors. VRAM and Mosfets are pretty well cooled with the original Heatsink and fan sh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I’m hoping he uses a new copper rad instead of the AIO’s rads

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

who said anything about using the same radiator? AIOs are closed loop systems, you can't (usually) repurpose them into an open loop.

OP has obviously ditched the dead AIO and strapped on a block for use in a totally different loop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Modding AIOs is fun and not many people do it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

there is no aio here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The 2080ti Hybrid includes an aio cooler which is made by the market leader Asetek.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

asetek and coolIT used bronze bearings which can seize when not in use for an amount of time and clogged by the products of corrosion.

Yes, I know this

The 2080ti Hybrid includes an aio cooler which is made by Asetek.

Yes I know, the radiator literally has a label on it that says Asetek.

You are so dumb it's pitiful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why are you so mad? He was literally just providing background information.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because I have REPEATEDLY stated that I replaced the original radiator with one from Cooler Master and this fucking dumbshit can't read and insists it's from Asetek. Yes, the Cooler Master rad is also made by asetek. Who fucking cares?

Fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You've also repeatedly edited your comments to appear correct and push blame onto others, which is pretty unfair to those people who have done nothing but give you background info.

But you do you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Incorrect once again

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

No, but there used to be.

I think you missed the point of what they were trying to say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

https://i.imgur.com/JNcqq6D.jpg

temps and hotspot temp dropped by 40c lol, the old pump got clogged a few months after i refilled it due to Cooler Master's poor aluminum radiator quality control.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the old pump got clogged because you mixed metals and caused galvanic corrosion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

no, the old pump got clogged because Cooler Master fucked up the manufacturing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Just another know-it-all thinking you know my process an what I did. This is why I get pissed when [censored][censored][censored][censored] like you come around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Fucking love your jank.

I got one of those blocks floating about, was very impressed with the microchannel density.