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Biden has directly influenced the cost of fuel.
No he doesn't. At best the president has an indirect and minimal effect on fuel prices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnBqAzJXVGo
Stopping drilling on federal land lowered supply and increased cost.
We should have stopped in the 70s, but here we are.
But regardless, he didn't stop the current wells from extracting, he increased the cost of new ones.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/20/climate/biden-drilling-federal-lands.html
https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-oil-and-gas-comes-from-federal-territory/
Believe me I wish he actually put a stop to it.
Spending Biden called for and. approved has increased inflation.
Inflation takes a while to hit, so much of what we are experiencing is from Trump's administration. And in addition to that, the president doesn't set the budget, congress does. Republicans are just as responsible for calls for spending and approval of inflation increasing policy.
And that's all before acknowledging that it's corporate greed disguised as inflation for the most part. Corporate earnings are at record breaking highs. That's not a coincidence.
Biden stopped exploration of new drill sites, that will decrease supply, which it did, less supply increases cost to the consumer.
Which is why I said "indirect and minimal". The other causes are much stronger.
When Biden opened up leases guess what happened, the price went down.
Cool. Doesn't change the fact that the president has a minimal effect.
Government spending has a direct correlation to inflation.
I am aware.
Fuel prices rising 30% after Biden shut down leases then fell 25% when he opened them back up. Sure seems like he has an effect.
Correlation does not imply causation. You're applying 100% of the cause to Biden due to correlation when in reality Biden is only a small part.
The Biden was the one who approved the budget, he threatened to veto if spending items were cut. He could have vetoed unless spending was cut. He didn’t and now we have inflation.
Again, it takes a long time for government policy to influence inflation, and so what we are currently experiencing is largely from Trump's administration. And again, a big chunk of the "inflation" isn't actually inflation but instead corporate greed. And third, sometimes spending is necessary to avoid a bigger disaster.
Production didn’t change for other nations
Dude. Have you been living under a rock? Have you somehow not heard of the giant fucking war going on in Europe?
This is a strawman fallacy. Try a little harder next time.
I do. It is when a person argues against something that their opponent did not advocate for.
Oh that’s right Putin did it. Biden totally didn’t cause US oil production to drop.
I did not state anything like this.
This might help you understand logical fallacies better.
Clearly you didn't read your own link.
What war in Europe were you referring to?
That would explain a lot about you.
Strange that you can't answer me what war in Europe you are referring to. Wonder why that is...
Tell me you don't know what the OPEC cartel is without telling me...
https://ycharts.com/indicators/opec_crude_oil_production
They're changing them all the fucking time to keep oil as high of a price as possible.
It's a cartel... Keeping the price high is the entire point of it's existence.
They're always changing
Cool. That doesn't change/dispute anything I've said.
I am claiming that the price changes of 30% didn't happen overnight, and that OPEC is doing everything they can to keep prices high.
I'd rather have "meh" over Trump, who is fond of using what is essentially Hitler quotes.