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TL;DR: Apple's upcoming iOS 18, macOS 15, watchOS 11, and tvOS 18 updates are expected to be "ambitious and compelling," featuring generative AI improvements, especially in Siri. The revamped Siri may offer enhanced integration with Messages, auto-generated Apple Music playlists, and productivity app integration. Apple is investing $1 billion annually in AI research, aiming to compete with Google and OpenAI. The company is debating whether to deploy the new AI technology via the cloud, on-device, or a combination. (via ChatGPT)

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lauded as 'Ambitious and Compelling' by Apple Execs

Well, if they say so it must be true

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Translating that from Apple speak, that means it'll be kind of impressive, but be missing clearly basic features and customizations.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

"This thing is ambitious and compelling" says people selling you the thing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’ve yet to find a product general AI helped.

I don’t want an AI to make Music playlists. I want simple rules that make sense. Pandora figured that out 23 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ai upscaling is a good example. Also chatgpt if you do lots of searches.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Upscaling is more successful. Using it for search is a very mixed bag, leaning more on the bad side personally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The only use I have found for ChatGPT is to generate replies for spam texts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you want to reply to spam?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It’s just bots adding you to more lists when you reply….

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As a C programmer, asking ChatGPT python questions has been super helpful. I can reference some random python library from the corner of the internet and it’ll answer back like it’s an expert in the field. It’s not perfect, but I’m not going to waste my time writing python algorithms if ChatGPT can do it in 2 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve used it to create plenty of bodgy powershell scripts for home use. It’ll get it 90% right, leaving me to quickly parse and fix it up.

Saves quite a bit of time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

In 2005 or so, I got a tip about an application called LaunchBar, which would later be copied by Apple to replace the Sherlock search tool, and later by Microsoft in its PowerToys suite. The machine learning LaunchBar used to tailor its responses based on my previous behavior was life-changing. Instead of configuring an application, I just had to use it to change how it behaved.

This is how language models and AI are going to improve your products. Subtly. Behind the scenes. Slightly improving a thousand different use cases, only a fraction of which your regular usage patterns are going to intersect with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think AI has some potential uses, but it feels like Apple has ignored its Music app for years, they just have the bare minimum and stopped giving a shit. Adding AI is probably the last thing they needed to do to improve their music software.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It does feel like it's ignored, mostly due to features being inconsistently integrated like for example Smart Playlists, but would you really call it the bare minimum? IMO both mobile and especially desktop app is a lot better than e.g. Spotify in terms of what it can do. Of course it probably wouldn't compare well against other current full music library managers though, I wouldn't exactly call Spotify fully-featured either, but against other streaming services I'd say it definitely holds up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think Apple needs to let Music go from the release cycle of the operating systems, especially if they're doubling down on Android and Windows support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mostly interact with it through iTunes on Windows, which is sort of just sort of frozen in time and frustrating as hell to use (that's a whole other issue in and of itself), but even switching over to a Mac and trying to interact with my iPod just feels like a more irritating experience than it should be. Hell, most of the stuff I that I should be able to do on the iPod itself, just can't be done apparently and requires you hook it up to a PC/Mac. Simple things like just adding a song file, renaming a song name, adding it to an album, or adding a picture. Yeah, it's easier on a computer, but there shouldn't be any reason you can't have the same functionality on an iPod or iPad at this point. I dread having to add songs to my iPod anymore, because half the time it will just refuse to add it and I'll spend an hour or two trying to troubleshoot it to figure out what the problem is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Good point, I've heard iTunes on Windows is awful. And yeah lack of library management except on desktops is something I find annoying too. Thankfully it's not too bad for me since I'm subscribed to Apple Music so it syncs between my computer and phone, and I only have a few albums that I uploaded myself, but I can imagine it being very awful if you have a big local library only and have to hook it up to sync. Here's hoping at least iPhone/iPad get library management features in the future, iPod is unlikely since that's discontinued :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Apple Music has a proper Windows app now, if you're willing to install from the Microsoft Store.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not sure if you meant general AI or something else, that’s probably going to be a huge step if we ever get there. But the LLMs we currently have are already quite impactful even with their limitations. I don’t think anyone can deny that - and we’re clearly just at the beginning of this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

“Brave”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have never been so glad that I talked myself out of buying the new iPhone this year! Siri is the primary input method I use for my iPhone. I would say I make around 20-30 vocal requests a day. It will be so nice to be able to do things like create a meeting on a calendar with a conversation instead of having to frame the request in a single sentence! I hope they do this rollout well.

[–] 271apple 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I doubt they're going to go back to a white background

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Haha, yeah pretty unlikely

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So they’ve made no progress in making Siri decent with years of massive resourcing available to them. In that time they’ve at least given us -

Usb-C across the product range.

Reduced consumer pricing outcomes through economies of scale advantages.

Agile solutions to fit modern consumer requirements with a major overhaul of base RAM and cloud storage.

Worry free computing with no keyboard issues.

High end headphones with no rust issues

Industry leading battery life on their watch range combined with style advantages the competition can only dream of.

iPads that now function as a true 2 in 1 device, using M series chips to their full potential. This alone has revolutionised the tech industry.

The ultimate all in one gaming and productivity machines, creating a major shift to Apple as the leading choice for both lifestyle and business.

Ethical nirvana. No compromise solutions for the entire supply and distribution chain, ensuring ..

..sorry, realised this list was going to keep going for so long you would all need to upgrade your devices before I completed it.

Thanks Apple.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And upgrade I will! Trading in or selling the old one takes the sting off of a new one and makes it quite affordable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Apple Watch batteries are certain not industry leading. The average battery life of an Apple Watch is 18 hours. 36 if you have it in low power mode the entire time. The Fitbit versa on the other hand will give you four days.

One of the biggest pills to swallow when switching from my Versa 2 to Apple Watch was the severe drop in battery life.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My entire post was satirical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Apple Watch comment was my ‘hey, wait a second!’ Moment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I charge my ultra occasionally, but it’s not really an issue. I put on a fast charger before I have a shower and it’s never been anything I ever worry about. It never runs out of battery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who’s dick do I have to suck to get a nice AI bot to filter my news for me? Pleas sprinkle some AI pixie dust on the News app. Kthx

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Install “Boring Report”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve seen that one suggested but it doesn’t seem to employ LLMs to filter news down to what I want to read. Though removing sensationalism is a nice feature, I don’t want my news feed to contain any sports, celebrity, listicles, etc.

I’d like to be able to tune that filtering using an LLM with optimal summarization, ideally.