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Those who keep another copy of their hard drive (or whatever other backup source) offsite, where is that? Your mommas house? A storage locker facility? At work?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You can almost imagine the look of shock and awe when my retired parents had the nerdy neighbor kid over to look at their computer (was having internet issues) and he stumbled upon 30,000 movie rips, probably 8,000 TV series, complete rom/iso sets from Atari 2600 to PS2...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

One copy at my sisters house that is real-time sync. One offline copy at a friends house nearby

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Encrypted on Azure archive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Onedrive for my documents but that is only up to 1 TB, and more for convenience as i have them available everywhere on all devices.

Pictures in the locker at work. = 8TB drive

HDDs in my shed for Movies and Series

Once my shed is rebuild (bricks and mortar), even the Pictures will go there.

The point of offsite is: How far do you want to go? If mayor wildfires, floodings, hurricanes and tornadoes aren't a thing. Or if you build houses that are not made of toothpicks where you live. 25m away, in a separate building is more than sufficient imo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you have close to 8tb worth of pictures? well i guess we are in r/Datahoarder

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Around 4TB

I take a lot of pictures and tend to keep all the RAW files that are not absolute garbage or test shots. @40-50MB per piece, It goes pretty quick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

that like 100k pictures damn

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Pushing 7TB here. Everything I've shot over the last 40 years, both on digital (RAW) and digitized film, plus the scanned slides of about 4 other people and my extensive historic slide/negative collection. I don't ever trash anything, except for the rare instance that my shutter release gets hit accidentally and I get a burst of 15 out-of-focus boot pictures.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

In a drawer at work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Encrypted disk in my desk drawer at work. Contains everything apart from my movie collection. Many of my colleagues have now copied my approach.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Not today, CIA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Safe deposit box at a local bank.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aren't magnetic forces a concern? Is it SSD or a standard drive?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Not sure what kind of safetybox you got in your bank but over here they are just plain steel containers vary in size depending on what you pay. I got a couple of them though the service becomes less and less common over here. I don't see how storing drives in there would be a risk, just a hassle to keep them up to date.

Personally I just dropped a Synology at my parents place. They have a 1GB up/down line for watching her youtube video's and every week of my critical data they receive a copy. Relatively low cost, low power and easy to use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

A server at my workplace, on its own network with its own public static, so I can admin it separatly to the actual office network.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I stash my second janky NAS with my family in another part of the country. I ask my sibling to keep it powered on every week or so then shut it down after a couple minutes. If my main data storage near the capital city goes kaput, I'd phone my sibling to bring me my entire NAS (all expenses paid) immediately. My main stash is in my office which is only 10' commute

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you do something important that you would need your backups immediately?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Probably nsfw linux isos

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Encrypted on OVH cold storage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

My sister made a redundant setup at her place possible. Connection with wireguard and a sane amount of storage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

A backup of 4TB HDD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Mommas and Granny's house!

All encrypted with me holding the keys in separate locations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Backblaze + parents basement with multiple externals. I also use one drive for files I want to access remotely and backing up photos during vacation if I have access to decent internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

LTO tape in a locked drawer at work, I only backup important non-replaceable things like the email server and personal documents/photos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Parents house with a few really important things in the cloud (backblaze).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Amazon Glacier Deep Archive

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Well, I have cloud backup for my important files (Google and Onedrive) and the "less important" stuff (another 40tb or so) is sitting in a storage locker at a storage unit place nearby me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I don't do backups of a lot. The important stuff that has like, an actual backup, has 2 copies off site. One at my work, one at my wife's work. Just a regular LTO tape. The vast majority of what I store, is not something I consider important enough to backup as it's stuff like, dvds and blurays I've ripped and still have and thus could get out of storage and rip again should that need arise. I do however donoff site replication. 3 replica ceph pool where one copy has to be off site. There's again one node at my work and one at my wife's work, plus ofc the local cluster which for drive constraints in the work nodes, always has two of the replicas. Might add a second node at my work but while we both get to place the servers there, I still pay for power, and wife for power and connection. With power prices these days, it gets kind of expensive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

My dream setup is two NAS servers, one at my desk, another at my parents house 2000 miles away sitting at the bottom shelf of my mom’s desk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Nice try FBI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Safe deposit box, 8TB external drive with encrypted backups of my NAS. Have the same drive locally too and swap them monthly. Current year and prior year folders also get cloud backed up to backblaze.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

OneDrive and University server.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

40TB NAS in the comms cupboard at work with a 1G symmetrical line. Helps that I look after the network in the office.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Mom's house. Old pc with a bunch of big usb drives on a high shelf in her basement. Open vpn point to point vpn set up so she can use my nfs and I can send backups.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I have another house, about 800 miles away.. With another fairly identical setup. VPN at 1gb between. That's for the replication. Also, have another site, with a VPN, and some rackspace there for periodic backups. My more critical stuff is put in an encrypted drive and left at another location. I like doing things myself and this works for me, but you may want to look into some bucket storage in the cloud, or just a USB drive you can carry offsite on occation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

My backup is like 2mm away from the main, not very secure I know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I have offsite location as my cloud cloud backup. That's basically, it.